I consider Byzantines as Western.
I consider Byzantines as Western.
"But if you should fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home."
Grateful Dead, "Ripple"
I have to say, Steppe Horsemen were quite remarkable. I don't know much about Eastern Cavalry...
It was not theirs to reason why,
It was not theirs to make reply,
It was theirs but to do or die.
-The Charge of the Light Brigade - Alfred, Lord Tennyson
"Wherever this stone shall lie, the King of the Scots shall rule"
-Prophecy of the Stone of Destiny
"For God, For King and country, For loved ones home and Empire, For the sacred cause of justice, and The freedom of the world, They buried him among the kings because he, Had done good toward God and toward his house."
-Inscription on the Tomb of the Unknown Warrior
In antic times parthian's horses were considered ( even by romans ) the best!
steppe warriors were exceptional,but were really strong,or was everyone they fought very weak?also to be an affective fighting force you must have some kind of unity,i dont recall the name of the battle(it may of never happened but i remember reading about it somewhere)where after attila died,the huns fought an army of germans,and were defeated from their lack of preparation,stratedgy,and unity.
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Originally Posted by Tomi says
also the fact that there bodies,and that of their horses were in incredible shape.each could endure a level of hardness most would find difficult,if not impossible.i have several horses myself,and you would be suprised how easily they can get over weight,you have to work them out.also there is a major difference between a horse eating grain and oats,and a horse living off grass.
fight by day...
drink by night!
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Originally Posted by Tomi says
Give me a single battle of any force in any time period where a leaderless army won a battle. Even a battle where an ill-led, ill-prepared force won -- there are precious, so precious few of those, if any.Originally Posted by VAE VICTUS
And their physical condition only adds to their honor -- it is an amazing achievement to be able to execute the Parthian shot alone. Hard life breeds hard men -- and both the Mongols and the Roman legionaries, for example, were hard men with hard lives.
~Wiz
Last edited by The Wizard; 05-22-2005 at 22:12.
"It ain't where you're from / it's where you're at."
Eric B. & Rakim, I Know You Got Soul
The steppe horses were ponies, not actual horses. They were tougher, smaller and hardier than other horses, and they lived of the steppe, like their riders could. The steppe horsemen were all great horesmen, and great archers, other wise they wouldn't have grown to adult hood. They also have incredible discipline, pulling of insanely complex manuevers that knights were never able to accomplish.
"But if you should fall you fall alone,
If you should stand then who's to guide you?
If I knew the way I would take you home."
Grateful Dead, "Ripple"
I vote for the Comanches, maybe best light cav of all times!![]()
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