Re: marching speed and cavalry
Temple, yes they were slowed down when leaving the steppe. That said, the steppe is a very large place, and nomadic based armies did have successes outside of the steppe. Was it harder? Certiantly, just as all civilzed people have found it harder to fight in the steppe against steppe tactics.
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Re: marching speed and cavalry
That's logical but not really true as the steppe pony doesn't require quality grains to thrive which most other types of horses do. Also the steppe cultures had enormous herds of horses and would frequently switch from one animal to another greatly extending the speed at which they could move and the range.Originally Posted by cunctator
A steppe army would have a real problem in desert due to the numbers of animals they usually have but the lower feed requirements for the steppe mounts would help a little.
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Re: marching speed and cavalry
Rember, Chinggis did cross the Gobi. But not many armies fought or marched in true dessert at that time, I believe.
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Re: marching speed and cavalry
I didn't mean to suggest they couldn't cross it. I am just not sure they would be much better at crossing a desert than say a Chinese army who also crossed the Gobi as well on occasion.
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Re: marching speed and cavalry
Right, I see Steppe said that Steppe tribes were fast even with a HUGE calvary army, will why don't you make it that steppe tribes's calvary doesn't use that rule.
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Re: marching speed and cavalry
The eaisest thing to do regarding unrealistic movement speed is to split the year into 4 turns ala Shogun Total War.
Re: marching speed and cavalry
Ano2: to make the movement/time ratio somewhat realistic, it's more like 1 turn=1month. But then, there's already a problem that the campaign ends too quickly, making every year 12 turns would make most campaigns last less than a decade or two! ;)
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