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    Quietus, I'm with you.
    I consider Blues, Rock and Reggae all the same, really. Some Jazz is also similar. Besides, it was "best band", not "best rock band". To me, Marley is far more rock than any sort of metal will ever be. Why? Because Rock is based on blues, which almost all Metal isn't.
    edit: Oh, and real country and bluegrass, and folk, too is very similar to rock, in my mind.
    Real country being not today's fake accent country.
    Last edited by Steppe Merc; 05-25-2005 at 12:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    I consider Blues, Rock and Reggae all the same, really. Some Jazz is also similar. Besides, it was "best band", not "best rock band". To me, Marley is far more rock than any sort of metal will ever be. Why? Because Rock is based on blues, which almost all Metal isn't.
    Uhh...

    Examples, please?

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    Examples of what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Examples of what?
    Metal not being blues-based.

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    Where is the blues in Metal? How many Metal bands have ever covered a blues song? How is any metal related to blues, or any other rock?
    And I'm not talking about Black Sabbath, I'm talking the stuff that's around today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanamori
    Tiesto, Paul Van Dyk, . . .
    those are no bands.

    I like their music, though.
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    System of a Down are Armenian, although they live in America.

    I thought "bands" was used to mean musical group, even though they are clearly not bands of the literal sense. Thought I would never find another electronica fan here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanamori
    System of a Down are Armenian, although they live in America.

    I thought "bands" was used to mean musical group, even though they are clearly not bands of the literal sense. Thought I would never find another electronica fan here
    No, they're all second-generation Americans. Their parents were Armenian. SOAD grew up in the Hollywood area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Where is the blues in Metal? How many Metal bands have ever covered a blues song? How is any metal related to blues, or any other rock?
    And I'm not talking about Black Sabbath, I'm talking the stuff that's around today.
    I can only assume you don't listen to much metal, but that's not much of an argument anyway.

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    I can only assume you don't listen to much metal, but that's not much of an argument anyway.
    Of course I don't. I shouldn't have said Metal, I meant Punk and Emo... Sorry, I can't tell the difference between a lot of harder styles of music... Though I would say that Metal core (whatever that means) isn't very bluesy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Of course I don't. I shouldn't have said Metal, I meant Punk and Emo... Sorry, I can't tell the difference between a lot of harder styles of music... Though I would say that Metal core (whatever that means) isn't very bluesy...
    Punk is. Well, real punk, anyway. Emo and metalcore, beyond both sucking horribly, are less blues-based, but metalcore does have its moments.

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    Sorry for confusing everyone. I really have trouble trying to figure out all the names for things, and I often (wrongly) lump in every loud thing that I don't like into Metal, which I know is wrong.
    And some of the earlier Punk sort of is, but I don't think it is as much today.

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    The Dubliners of course

    Crowded House were also great before they spilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Sorry for confusing everyone. I really have trouble trying to figure out all the names for things, and I often (wrongly) lump in every loud thing that I don't like into Metal, which I know is wrong.
    And some of the earlier Punk sort of is, but I don't think it is as much today.
    That depends. There is still "real" punk being played these days, but you'll never see it on TV or hear it on any mainstream radio. 3-chord punk is the best example of today's blues-based music I can present, though.

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    Nightwish or Moonspell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
    Because the roots of raggae are not rock and roll as much as you would like us to believe, it does however have the same roots as rock and roll. That being R&B so the confusion is understandable. I never danced to ABBA but it was the first laser disc I ever bought. I hate disco with a passion. ABBA is definetly pop rock and probably the best pop rock band ever.
    ABBA is pop rock? OK, I'll give you that, just please don't call Reggae R&B. You're thinking reggae means

    "Bad boys bad boys whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you?"

    That's like saying Hootie & the Blowfish is the face of rock & roll.

    There no raggae group , not even Marley who holds a candle to the British super groups. These guys are the gods of rock and roll.
    Those 'super groups' wouldn't even get close to Burning Spear (my 4th favorite) let alone Bob Marley & the Wailers.
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    Seatbelts.




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    Quietus, RnB is awesome. You're thinking of Rythym and Beat (fake RnB, today's RnB), while the RnB that Gawain is talking about (real RnB) is Rythym (or Riddim ) and Blues. This is essentially blues... So yeah, it is RnB based, just as Rock is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Where is the blues in Metal? How many Metal bands have ever covered a blues song? How is any metal related to blues, or any other rock?
    And I'm not talking about Black Sabbath, I'm talking the stuff that's around today.
    lol, oh dear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    lol, oh dear.
    Haha! Yeah, that's what I said.

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    JAG, I was wondering when you would come in here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steppe Merc
    Quietus, RnB is awesome. You're thinking of Rythym and Beat (fake RnB, today's RnB), while the RnB that Gawain is talking about (real RnB) is Rythym (or Riddim ) and Blues. This is essentially blues... So yeah, it is RnB based, just as Rock is.
    Agreed. Classic R&B/Soul music is great. Delfonics, Stylistics and lots more! One of my favorite genre.

    I was thinking Gawain was comparing it to Dancehall Reggae (like Shaggy for example). Shaggy and the likes are godawful. ::ick::


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    I don't listen to any bands, much less bands from outside of country. So there!
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