TW4 what do you want?

**scooter_the_shooter** · 11-17-2005, 01:09

I'd like to see a colonial tw; spanning from the spannish and aztecs to the American revoloution.

**Breeze** · 11-17-2005, 03:53

I'd like to see the older MTW made with the RTW engine where you could utilize the cities. And id like to see more difinitive things on the 2D map larger areas for the actual battles where using area's with more trees would be possible. I'd like toi see the batttles be more dynamic where cities burned and troops were affected by this, Id like to see traps in the fields or in the cities as you entered traps within a city,, I'd like to see moats with Crocs!! and Id like to see the ability to burn a field by creating traps within it as well. These items and things may need conditional factors for them to be employed correctly but they sure would be nice

**Maedhros** · 11-17-2005, 06:19

Middle Earth or Silmarillion aren't options. That was apparently explored but one of their developers in another post indicated somebody with deep pockets had bought the rights.

Which is sad because the War of the Rings games on the market now don't do Tolkiens world justice. They look like every other lame real time game. This is the best engine for any strategy game.

It could still be cool if they could get the rights to the big war near the end of the second age, or the contest between Arthdain (and Cardolan, Rhudaur) vs. Angmar.

Anything from the Silmarillion would be spectacular, since the scale was so much bigger.

these are unlikely so an early part of the warring states period would be good. That would also give us a break from Europe and make a return to Greece or Assyria later seem fresher in a future game.

**Duke John** · 11-17-2005, 07:13

I trust CA that they will come up with an interesting period and the game is moddable, so all I would like to see is a decent AI, that has been given the priority it deserves in a strategy/tactical game.

**Martok** · 11-18-2005, 05:41

Originally Posted by Maedhros

Middle Earth or Silmarillion aren't options. That was apparently explored but one of their developers in another post indicated somebody with deep pockets had bought the rights.

That would be EA. In addition to Jackson's movies, they've now also secured the rights to all of Tolkien's published works. This is what allows them to focus the sequel to Battle for Middle-Earth on the War of the Ring's "northern theatre" (elves, dwarves, Dol Goldur, etc.).

Originally Posted by Maedhros

Which is sad because the War of the Rings games on the market now don't do Tolkiens world justice. They look like every other lame real time game. This is the best engine for any strategy game.

It could still be cool if they could get the rights to the big war near the end of the second age, or the contest between Arthdain (and Cardolan, Rhudaur) vs. Angmar.

Anything from the Silmarillion would be spectacular, since the scale was so much bigger.

these are unlikely so an early part of the warring states period would be good. That would also give us a break from Europe and make a return to Greece or Assyria later seem fresher in a future game.

I agree that the next TW game should either be in a fantasy setting or based during China's Warring Sates period--and that the next game after that should be something like Bronze Age: Total War, focusing on the Greeks, Persians, etc.

**Dimeola** · 11-23-2005, 02:40

I would dearly love to see a new version of STW...with a huge map...turns for smaller time period......maybe a TW developers/modders kit included. Would love to see a fantasy setting like Hyboria....just dont think it would sell well enough.
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**Reidy** · 11-23-2005, 21:58

1) Renaissance : Total War - 1453 to 1745
Expansion: Napoleonic Invasion 1790 to 1816

OR

2) Empire : Total War with several different campaigns - one for the americas, one for africa and one for asia (and maybe europe)
Expansion: Nationalist Invasion (american war of independance).

**RemusAvenged** · 12-14-2005, 06:16

Originally Posted by Breeze

I'd like to see the older MTW made with the RTW engine where you could utilize the cities. And id like to see more difinitive things on the 2D map larger areas for the actual battles where using area's with more trees would be possible. I'd like to see the batttles be more dynamic where cities burned and troops were affected by this, Id like to see traps in the fields or in the cities as you entered traps within a city,, I'd like to see moats with Crocs!! and Id like to see the ability to burn a field by creating traps within it as well. These items and things may need conditional factors for them to be employed correctly but they sure would be nice

Having barriers set up in a city would be awesome. Sieges are way too easy. Why not allow for the blocking of streets to slow an enemy, or the hiding of units in buildings or even a special 'city mob' set of units that appear for the defender? Maybe even allowing unlimited arrows for the defender.

And how sweet would it be to have stakes or pit traps to slow down enemy cavalry from charging in and dominating?

Sorry that's off topic and old but Breeze is onto something.
Um, African Total War! Come on Zulus rock, Nubians are cool, Masai Tribemen would sweep up and pygmies...

**RemusAvenged** · 12-14-2005, 06:26

Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time would be a really rich source of units and Geography. But the non human Trollocs and Myrrdals might be tough to do justice to. Aiel desert warriors, Seanchan oriental style units with fantastic lizard and Battle Cat mounts, strong defensive crossbow units, horse me up the wazoo, darkfriend mob units, Malkeri Knights, Two Rivers bowman and of course: Far Dareis Mai. Santa likey

But I think it would need a magic element. Some unit that could cast simple fireballs or earth rending.. Maybe something along the lines of the Heroes from Warcraft?

**RemusAvenged** · 12-14-2005, 06:43

OK last post on this. Not that I normally like gun powder, but the Alternate History books series by Harry Turtledove would be great.

An America split after the South wins independence due to a UK-France enforced end to the Civil War. Here the USA is not on good terms with Canada and is surrounded by enemies.

This leads to an All-American coldwar-stalemate that ensues where the USA sides with Germany and has a big Socialist party, since Lincoln would have been despised for losing. The CSA (Confederates) still carry slavery upto the 1890's and they have strong allies in the UK and France. Things come to a boil again as they move into Mexico (Manifest Southern Destiny) and Cuba in the 1880's. And this starts a Second American Civil War by a still stronger but isolated North.

Not that I agree with the South's right to the "War of Northern Aggression", but IMHO the premise would be a good change up.

**Laman** · 12-17-2005, 08:04

Songhai TW!
Play as Songhai, Mali, Hausa, Oyo, Benin, Mossi or others. Would be a lot of fun. And for expansion (if needed) CA could have Moroccan Invasion.

**King Noob the Stupid** · 12-17-2005, 19:00

I think colonization TW would be great, it could begin around 1492 and end in the 18th century, there would be Europe, America and Africa on the map (perhaps Asia too) and you could play as one of the european powers trying to bring christianity to the natives and gold to their homelands while fighting the natives and the other europeans, or you could play native peoples trying to save their lifes and their culture/religion, addon could be for example african pre-colonization kingdoms or mayas/aztecs/incas or something like that.