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    Default Re: We are such proponents of a culture of life that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    So you want to execute people so they cannot ever be released and possibly kill an innocent again, but when this process will end up killing innocent people it's ok?

    New argument please, as I think this one is quite dead.
    Well your argument assumes there is an option where innocent people don't end up dead and that simply isn't true. You want to put people in prison but that option ends up killing innocent people as well. The difference is that at least the vast majority of the ones who are executed in my system are the guilty. Or do you think that even matters?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside
    But sharrukin cannot use that argument, not without changing opinion.
    Since that wasn't Sharrukin's argument to begin with he doesn't need to change his opinion! My argument was and is that the vast majority of those who are convicted are in fact guilty as charged. We do not live in a perfect world and mistakes will happen. It is a fantasy to suggest that we will not execute thoses who are innocent of any crime. That is simply being realistic.

    Not executing criminals and letting them out kills more innocent people than using the death penalty ever could. If you are interested in something else other than moral posing you must make a decision that will kill innocent people either way. A few innocents will die by execution but far more will die if you do nothing.
    Last edited by sharrukin; 05-24-2005 at 19:06.
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