Barbarian Invasion screenshots at Gamespy

[The_Doctor]

http://media.pc.gamespy.com/media/74...59/imgs_1.html

The night battles look good, there are even some units holding tourchers.

Why are there crusaders?

[Beefy]

ooooo new ones! looking good!


i think its gonna kick so much ass! cant wiat to play as the vandals!

[Barbarossa82]

New ones?? Were there earlier BI screenshots I missed?
I checked the earlier thread about E3 but could find no mention of them there. If they exist, could someone please point me the way to them? thanks!

[IliaDN]

It is a pity that there is no swimming units on those screenshots.
Night battles are cool!

[The_678]

There are swimming units here. They may just be fording a shallow river but I suspect that is what we'll be getting, not full-out swimming. And the road there suggests that you may even have to start building bridges yourself.

[tibilicus]

wow burning torches !!!!!!!!!!!! Now its looking good !

[clayton ballentine]

when is it coming out

[Mikeus Caesar]

Hm...i already spotted a few things i don't like there, including those horse riders with huge chins, and the fact that some of the people holding torches look more like their heads are on fire. And why would they still be using the same onagers, hundreds of years after the original RTW? And why are there torches that look like cups on top of the onagers which would probably fall off when fired? And does anyone remember before RTW came out that we were shown spectacular battle scenes with ten onagers firing everywhere at once, but in the real game we can't do this? I sense yet another dissapointment...

[BDC]

The skins look more detailed too.

[Viking]

Ah yes! This was what I was waiting for!

Those guys wearing greenish cloakes on the last screenshot, what kinda guys were those? The famous battle priests?

New ones?? Were there earlier BI screenshots I missed?
I checked the earlier thread about E3 but could find no mention of them there. If they exist, could someone please point me the way to them? thanks!

There was originally a screenshot in this thread, but it was removed `cause it was a scan.

There was also some more(more doubtful) screenies, but they were taken offline before I managed to see them.

[Count Belisarius]

Why are there crusaders?

I doubt that the guys with crosses on their tunics are crusaders, per se, since the game is set circa 400 A.D., and the First Crusade began approximately 700 years later. According to the catholic histories, Constantine the Great first displayed the Christian cross on the shields of his men before the battle of Milvian Bridge in 312 A.D. These screenshots may depict soldiers in the service of a Christian Caesar, whether East or West I don't know. Any other ideas?

[Rodion Romanovich]

Wow, nice screenies! The night battles after all seem a lot more ambitious than I first thought!

[Orda Khan]

How can anyone complain about these screenshots? Must say it looks pretty impressive. This is the game I was waiting for!!

......Orda

[clayton ballentine]

when does it come out i want to know because i want to buy everyhistory game when it first comes out

[Orda Khan]

when does it come out i want to know because i want to buy everyhistory game when it first comes out

Supposedly August 2005

.......Orda

[Jochi Khan]

I have seen THREE months quoted.............

first September...then August...and lastly October

Jochi

[Little Legioner]

So, just wondering

If they change the design of battlefields. Foliage, hills, rivers etc. etc... Do they affect the RTW's battlemaps? I cannot remember whats happened on older TW series. Very long time has been passed

[screwtype]

The skins look more detailed too.

Yeah, I noticed that. Is it just that they are being rendered on an ultra high end machine? Or will we notice a difference to the detail on an average rig?

As for the night battle scenes, I'm not terribly impressed. What's with the red and purple halos around units? This just looks silly, more like something out of Star Wars than the flickering light from torches.

[Leet Eriksson]

Why am i looking at wookies in the first screenshot?

Apparently there are huns too, probably they will be like the mongol invasion, with tons of units appearing at the edge of the map.

[mfberg]

Screens look good, I hope I don't have to get a whole new system to handle the graphics though.

I am hoping for an added diplomacy intrugue - hostages - where you get to raise some of the other faction generals in your own army/cities for awhile. (Imagine sending Attila back to his huns with the True Roman virtue)

mfberg

[Kraxis]

Nobody has noticed that some of the spearmen actually use the overhand style. Check those first guys the with big beards and crossed shields. Their spearpoints are pointing into the ground. Needed for overhand style (dev talk, long ago).
Meanwhile there is another unit where the point is pointing skywards but they still fight overhand (so the butt of the spear is used in combat). I remember that in the TC show for some of the units. Especially the late Roman auxiliaries.

[pezhetairoi]

Danke Gott for overhand fighting. I'd had enough of the Hoplite Pike Phalanx and the Barbarian mercenaries looking as if all they want is to poke a fellow man in the guts or lower. *ahem*

[bodidley]

According to the catholic histories, Constantine the Great first displayed the Christian cross on the shields of his men before the battle of Milvian Bridge in 312 A.D.

It wasn't crosses, but the Greek letters Chi (X) and Rho (P) crossed over eachother, because they were the first letters in Christ.

The graphics look nicer than RTW original. Though, one of the units, I'm assuming it's a Hun unit, looks like a freakin' troop of eunichs. The Huns were turkic of course, but then again I don't expect a lot of accuracy from RTW.

[RZST]

hey guys, i made a wallpaper for BI. check em out at the top of the forum =)
wallpaper, artwork, etc section.

[Oaty]

The Huns were turkic of course, but then again I don't expect a lot of accuracy from RTW.

Actually they are believed to be descended from Mongolia

[pezhetairoi]

yeap, they were pouring over the Great Wall of China (and getting trashed) a long time before they poured over the Carpathians.

[bodidley]

The Huns are believed to come from the Mongolian steppe, and that is where the popular assumption that they were Mongolian comes from. Mongolians were not the only people living on the steppe, however. The Naiman and Uyger are examples of Turkic people who lived (and in the case of the Uyger still live, the Naiman were wiped out by Genghis Khan) in the eastern steppe and flatlands. I'm assuming that CA is going to make the Huns look mongolian (as it seems to appear in the screenshots), but is it too much to ask that they not look like eunichs?

[bodidley]

Here is a link that sheds light on the subject.
http://kessler-web.co.uk/History/Fea...barianHuns.htm

Just interesting facts regarding the history of the era in question, specifically the origins of the Huns. I know CA has used its creative license with the setting of RTW, but since the acclaimed historian Stephen Turnbull was their fact-check guy for Shogun I thought that history does indeed have a place in Total War. Enjoy

[Orda Khan]

The origins of the Huns is not known at all and we have only the theories of historians. There is no evidence to provide the answer, only conjecture

.........Orda

[bodidley]

Hunnic runes, and sentances from the Hunnic language preserved by their neighbors have proven that they where a Turkic people. There is also considerable evidence about their culture and customs left by their neighbors, and some archeological evidence.

I've heard people say that we don't know much about the Celts, as well. We have enough literary evidence (both reliable and unreliable) and archeological evidence to know more than a little bit about them. The study of the so-called "barbarians" has made tremendous progress in the past 50 years. This has not neccesarily translated into the popular imagination, but then again, many people learned Greco-Roman history from their 10th grade Latin teachers.