The Most Liberal/Conservative of them All.

[DemonArchangel]

Social:

Most Socially Liberal: Me or Beirut
Most Socially Conservative: Navaros with a nod to DevDave

Fiscal:

Most Fiscally Liberal: One of the Scandanavians.
Most Fiscally Conservative: PanzerJager.

Political:

Most Politically Liberal: Me
Most Politically Conservative: Redleg, Panzer Jager

Overall:

Most Liberal: Me
Most Conservative: Tied between Alexander the Pretty Good, Panzer Jager and Navaros

[BDC]

I take the most militant centerist of them all!

[Devastatin Dave]

Socially conservative?!?!? I don't even believe in the death penalty, I'm just a soft hearted lovable guy...

**posts while holding a pro life rally in front of an abortion clinic**

[Alexander the Pretty Good]

Most Liberal: Me

Humbly submitted.

Most Conservative: Tied between Alexander the Pretty Good, Panzer Jager and Navaros

Me? Navaros?!? Just what criterion are you using to judge this, anyway???

[Devastatin Dave]

Humbly submitted.


Me? Navaros?!? Just what criterion are you using to judge this, anyway???

hehehe.. you right winger!!!

[Lazul]

One of the Scandinavians eh?.... are we that many? heh

...hm what does Fiscally mean anyway?

[Kaiser of Arabia]

Social:

Most Socially Liberal: Me or Beirut
Most Socially Conservative: Navaros with a nod to DevDave

Fiscal:

Most Fiscally Liberal: One of the Scandanavians.
Most Fiscally Conservative: PanzerJager.

Political:

Most Politically Liberal: Me
Most Politically Conservative: Redleg, Panzer Jager

Overall:

Most Liberal: Me
Most Conservative: Tied between Alexander the Pretty Good, Panzer Jager and Navaros

You forgot Il Duce, aka me.

[PanzerJaeger]

Are you really implying that this is not only as good as we get, but as good as we can or should get?

Progress of society is exactly that - progress. How can you say we should not progress? Should we also call a halt to learning anything new, of exploration of places never been, and the attainment of goals unachieved?

Methinks you perhaps did not mean exactly what you said.

Methinks we have different ideas of what social means.

Of course science and technology are ever-progressing things, I was referring to the social engineering liberals subscribe to.

The liberals among us are holding true to their origins and are trying to change the basic fabric of society. Only this time political correctness, historical revisionism, abortion, socialism in all its forms, anti-religious stances, governmental dependency, euthanasia, amoral science, minority apologism, and of course changing the definition of the family unit are all in their bag of tricks.

It is my not-so-humble opinion that the liberal mindset which includes all of the above is not progressive - but regressive.

It is the liberal mindset that if social ills are not apparent, they exist nonetheless.

It is my opinion that the days of positive and needed liberalism are over. We dont have slaves, women are free, the rule of law is strong. Of course there are exceptions but our society in the western world doesn't have any major social problems except liberalism itself.

In short: Its not broken anymore, quit trying to fix society with harmful socialist policies.

[ichi]

There should be a poll about who hijacks threads and takes them off-topic the most, but it would get hijacked by an argument over conservative v liberal views.

The most under-rated neo-con is TuffStuff , wildly extreme. There are also some pretenders who arent conservatives at all, just angry young men.

Dave isnt a conservative as much as he is a fundamentalist Christian.

Kafir is the most radical liberal, which is appropriate for his name.

There are several in here who are hard to peg, and that's a damn good thing

ichi

[AntiochusIII]

You don't know who I am - and I'd bet you don't want to know. Mwahaha!

[kiwitt]

What about me. I swing either way. Am I Bi-Paritisan

[Byzantine Prince]

The most under-rated neo-con is TuffStuff , wildly extreme. There are also some pretenders who arent conservatives at all, just angry young men.

Tuff Stuff a neo-con? Wildly extreme?!?!?
Are we talking about TuffStuff or Panzer?

Who are the angry young conservative men? Gawain?

[Idaho]

I think this whole 'liberal' obsession in America is a manifestation of the 'enemy within' phenomena that occur from time to time in society. The target is always vague - yet has figureheads and hate figures. Also there tends to be a strong packing tendancy among the supporters of such mini-pogroms.

Witches, Catholics, Blacks, Jews, Chinese, Indians, Counter-revolutionaries, communists, liberals, etc. History is littered with examples of these campaigns. They all have a few features in common:

- they pick an enemy whose crimes are vague
- the enemy is never the majority
- the campaign appeals most to young men, especially those attracted to military and violent solutions
- the enemy is always out of favour or insignificant to the current government

Fortunately we live in an age where there aren't actually mock trials, etc. Most of this current campaign is just a media storm in a teacup. However the efforts by people to curry status within the group by saying how anti-liberal they are, and how extreme they would be on issue x follows a well trammelled path.

This explains why the anti-liberal thing doesn't travel well outside the US. The only support it gets in the UK/Europe are when it taps into a different political dynamic - the disgruntled young male Conservative/Christian Democrat/etc voter (about 0.5% of the population )

In Europe generally liberal not only means something different, but there is no clear enemy within that can be identified by the current politcal party in power.

[Lazul]

Only this time political correctness, historical revisionism, abortion, socialism in all its forms, anti-religious stances, governmental dependency, euthanasia, amoral science, minority apologism, and of course changing the definition of the family unit are all in their bag of tricks.

Panz, Socialism has little do with Liberalism. Atleast here in Sweden, Socialist and Liberals tend to despise each other. Tho the political climate is far from that of america, we have no party as conservative as the Republicans and so on. (Thank God)

[Kraxis]

Panz, Socialism has little do with Liberalism. Atleast here in Sweden, Socialist and Liberals tend to despise each other. Tho the political climate is far from that of america, we have no party as conservative as the Republicans and so on. (Thank God)

Indeed that was the point I made when I set that little line... But it doesn't seem to get through.

[Steppe Merc]

Nav is easily the most socially conservative.
As for most liberal, I'd have to go QwertyMIDX, you probably don't know him much, but he's a Marxist (I know him from working together on EB...) I feel very much confused when he starts talking economics with some of our more conservative members...

[Tachikaze]

Most Conservative: Tied between Alexander the Pretty Good, Panzer Jager and Navaros

I think Navaros opposed the war in Iraq. That skews his rating in my opinion. He seems the most religiously conservative to me.

[bmolsson]

Politics are difficult. Emotionally I am a very liberal person. In reality I am a very reactionary person. I really like the Amercian systems, except the foreign policy and the misuse of the legal system. The emotional beliefs in individual freedom are most of the time in conflict with my practical experience with rules and regulation of people in order to get a society to function efficient. The largest threat against democracy is actually the voters themselves. Opportunism and ignorant views are today driving the western democracies away from development and evolution to a better society.

[QwertyMIDX]

Does anyone here other than me wave the black flag? If not I'd probably take one of these prizes .