The Most Liberal/Conservative of them All.

[Byzantine Prince]

The most under-rated neo-con is TuffStuff , wildly extreme. There are also some pretenders who arent conservatives at all, just angry young men.

Tuff Stuff a neo-con? Wildly extreme?!?!?
Are we talking about TuffStuff or Panzer?

Who are the angry young conservative men? Gawain?

[Idaho]

I think this whole 'liberal' obsession in America is a manifestation of the 'enemy within' phenomena that occur from time to time in society. The target is always vague - yet has figureheads and hate figures. Also there tends to be a strong packing tendancy among the supporters of such mini-pogroms.

Witches, Catholics, Blacks, Jews, Chinese, Indians, Counter-revolutionaries, communists, liberals, etc. History is littered with examples of these campaigns. They all have a few features in common:

- they pick an enemy whose crimes are vague
- the enemy is never the majority
- the campaign appeals most to young men, especially those attracted to military and violent solutions
- the enemy is always out of favour or insignificant to the current government

Fortunately we live in an age where there aren't actually mock trials, etc. Most of this current campaign is just a media storm in a teacup. However the efforts by people to curry status within the group by saying how anti-liberal they are, and how extreme they would be on issue x follows a well trammelled path.

This explains why the anti-liberal thing doesn't travel well outside the US. The only support it gets in the UK/Europe are when it taps into a different political dynamic - the disgruntled young male Conservative/Christian Democrat/etc voter (about 0.5% of the population )

In Europe generally liberal not only means something different, but there is no clear enemy within that can be identified by the current politcal party in power.

[Lazul]

well spoken Idaho

[Tachikaze]

mini-pogroms.

Excellent (and accurate) phrase. We'll see how PBS is bullied into compliance.

[Idaho]

I also think in the US the liberal/conservative false dichotomy is used to pretend that there is actually any daylight between the two corporate/capitalist political groups.

[Adrian II]

I think this whole 'liberal' obsession in America is a manifestation of the 'enemy within' phenomena that occur from time to time in society.

Well said. It appears to be part of a siege mentality related to foreign commitments, as during WWI, WWII and Cold War, with the Red Scare, fifth column scare (think of detained American Japanese) and McCarthyism respectively.

[Devastatin Dave]

I don't know, when the public schools are teaching 5th graders how to properly fist their partner and teenage girls can have abortions without parental consent but can't take an aperine at school, then yes, liberalism IS a problem.

[PanzerJaeger]

I think this whole 'liberal' obsession in America is a manifestation of the 'enemy within' phenomena that occur from time to time in society. The target is always vague - yet has figureheads and hate figures. Also there tends to be a strong packing tendancy among the supporters of such mini-pogroms.

Witches, Catholics, Blacks, Jews, Chinese, Indians, Counter-revolutionaries, communists, liberals, etc. History is littered with examples of these campaigns. They all have a few features in common:

- they pick an enemy whose crimes are vague
- the enemy is never the majority
- the campaign appeals most to young men, especially those attracted to military and violent solutions
- the enemy is always out of favour or insignificant to the current government

Fortunately we live in an age where there aren't actually mock trials, etc. Most of this current campaign is just a media storm in a teacup. However the efforts by people to curry status within the group by saying how anti-liberal they are, and how extreme they would be on issue x follows a well trammelled path.

This explains why the anti-liberal thing doesn't travel well outside the US. The only support it gets in the UK/Europe are when it taps into a different political dynamic - the disgruntled young male Conservative/Christian Democrat/etc voter (about 0.5% of the population )

In Europe generally liberal not only means something different, but there is no clear enemy within that can be identified by the current politcal party in power.

Heh theres nothing vague about the people who are ruining this country and have already ruined europe(politically speaking).

I gave clear examples of the mentality and i can give you examples of how it has affected the country negatively. You deny that there are many people with the mentality i spoke of? Its all just imaginary?

[Goofball]

Heh theres nothing vague about the people who are ruining this country and have already ruined europe(politically speaking).

Wow, this is great, I get to use the same response to conservative paranoia in two different threads!

Panzer, please see below:

You conservatives really kill me.

You currently control both the houses of Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Oval Office, all three branches of your government, yet the rest of us still have to listen to your paranoid whining about how you are at the mercy of the liberal agenda.

Give me a break...

How exactly are liberals ruining you country when conservatives are in complete control of it?

[PanzerJaeger]

Hehe, look at history. The communists didnt control russia but through the media, lies, and propaganda changed the whole mindset of the nation for the worst.

You dont need to control the government to propagate this mentality:

political correctness, historical revisionism, abortion, socialism in all its forms, anti-religious stances, governmental dependency, euthanasia, amoral science, minority apologism, and of course changing the definition of the family unit

[Idaho]

I gave clear examples of the mentality and i can give you examples of how it has affected the country negatively. You deny that there are many people with the mentality i spoke of? Its all just imaginary?

Really? Can I have some concrete examples. Some direct quotes, references etc? Or are you just fizzing at the bunghole like Dave?

[DemonArchangel]

*Hoo boy.*

Let's get back on topic shall we?

[Devastatin Dave]

Really? Can I have some concrete examples. Some direct quotes, references etc? Or are you just fizzing at the bunghole like Dave?

And here's your lib buddies at the ACLU... put that in your bunghole, I'm sure there are plenty on your side that will help you...

[Idaho]

I don't know, when the public schools are teaching 5th graders how to properly fist their partner and teenage girls can have abortions without parental consent but can't take an aperine at school, then yes, liberalism IS a problem.

No doubt - but seeing as you have just made this up wtf does it have to do with reality?

[Devastatin Dave]

No doubt - but seeing as you have just made this up wtf does it have to do with reality?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=17490

read it for yourself, realities a bitch. Would you want the public school teaching your twins how to have oral sex with each other... think about it.

[DemonArchangel]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=17490

Would you want the public school teaching your twins how to have oral sex with each other[?]

Only in Arkansas Dave.