Atlantis Total War

[Byzantine Prince]

I think it's really stupid to place in Thera. Thera was always tiny island with no real importance. I think the logic behind that might be that Thera was the volcanic eruption therefore it must have been there. By that is wrong. The theory is that Crete had this enormous civilization and when Thera exploded it created a tsunami of sorts and wiped out the civilization. Every acount I have seen has Atlantis bying from huge waves. How are waves gonna hit the epicenter if the epicenter is the volcano?!?!


I don't think it should even be in Crete though, I think it should be placed outside the Pillars of Hercules so we can put into perspective, because the new world wasn't found yet and it wouldn't be impossible for small part of Atlantis to have survived and then wanting to invade Europe. If we can Crete Atlantis then it would completely ahitorical even in a fantasy situation since there would be a different culture prevelent and Crete is too small anyways.

Thanx for putting me in the team though.

!BP!

[King of Atlantis]

Yeah well in our first version(just atlantis invasion) it will have to be a little ahistorical anyways to have atlantis anywhere. Though i want historical accuracy if possible we must remeber that this is atlantis total war and nothing about atlantis is certain. Like i said though we will need to make a team chat to work where exactly we want to go. Maybe some time tomorrow??

[Byzantine Prince]

I don't think we want to make a total conversion. It would be a huge pain to try make up different ridiculous units. I think we should use what we know about ancient Crete and make it "feel" realistic. Sure it's fantasy, but then again isn't all total war games fantasy? The "feel" of total war games is what makes them special. I think basing it to reality will definetly make it cooler to play.

Like i said though we will need to make a team chat to work where exactly we want to go. Maybe some time tomorrow??

We can just use the giuld's chat line. It's usually empty anyways. Just make a time up so we all show up.

BTW I have a book called Mystery of Atlantis which has some authentic historical maps of Atlantis I'll post them laterz. Here's something I just found on the internet that wll help in the naming though:



Check out the names. I especially like Posidonis. That's awesome isn't it?

[King of Atlantis]

Edit-I started writng before chilly posted in case my post seams confusing

Before i make a time i need to see when chilly is available as he is vital to the chat.

We hope to make a total conversion one day, but right now we just want to make atlantis switch with greece basically.

You should check out if(if havent already) chilly's thread. Since we cant come up with to much data about atlatnis we should just try to make them feel real. Even if atlantis is on crete/thera we wont represent them as those people as even if they lived there it doenst mean thy are the cretians. This being said we need to come up with a realistric identity for atlantis and stick with it. Chilly really gets the final say on units since he is our only skinner/slightly moddeler. I believe he wants to have some fantasy units, but i would also try to make them realsitic.

I would like to say 10:00 p.m for the chat tommorow(what timezone are you in me in chilly are in the same)

[King of Atlantis]

Chilly i think we should just use the org chatroom-look up top chat(java)

By the way i dont really like the time machine thing

Heres an idea-

The atlanteans we are playing as were out exploring the world when atlantis was destroyed. The have now returned to the ruins of atlantis and are now rebuilding their empire once again!

[Chilly5]

well, that kinda ruins the dramatc feeling i was kinda making but o well, can talk now gtg to bed talk tomarrow . . . btw u live in USA king of atlantis?

[King of Atlantis]

yeh, btw did you read my idea on how the atlanteans got there?

[Chilly5]

BP i like ur ideas . . . but this will definetlively be a ahistorical mod, atlantis still hasnt been proven to have ever exsisted yet . . . there is no real historical account of wat atlantis's army was (i think . . .), so if this is ahisotrical, i just thought that a modder could have some fun with a fantasy mod and have their own units and own design, based on their own accounts of atlantis. of course, u can help out with the plato stuff, and i dont like the idea of naming it atlantis invansion, sure, its a atlantis "invasion" mod, but invasion just sounds a little barbaric, so i want to name it return of atlantis. my original ahistorical mod idea, was . . .

once upon a time, atlantis was the greatest civilisation in the world . . . they conquored many territories and with uber advanced . . . i think of atlantis as the "perfect" civilization, where religion and science merge into one creating perfect harmony. a little to cute right?
but, anyway, they built a time machine (dont ask) , and to learn more about the destiny of the human race and stuff like that, they sent some people (a lot actually) to explore and stuff. so they leave and atlantis evolves and ager the gods and blah blah, the gods send a wave to destroy their precious city. and the explorers had no idea wat happend but they went into the future to about 300 BC, they find out wat happens and along with the natives and survivors, they begin to rebuild, they conqour the agean islands, cutting of the trade of the greek cities, causing their empire to fall (somehow, dont ask) and now continue to rebuild their empire, against the rising power of rome. so thats why i want to call it rome total war-RETURN of atlantis, cause atlantis already exsisted and got destroyed. . . to would be wierd to have atlantis suddenly come from the new world or something . . . .


BTW- BP, ur a modder right? hen u must know that there is a faction limit and so we must replace a faction, not make a new one. so in order to make a empire pop out of nowhere, we will need a good story to tell how the faction it replaced suddenly fell. and king of atlantis, my skills are skinning, 2D (though not too great at that), and gmax moddeling (not to great at that either). my experience, if i had not told u already is: founder of Native america total war
member of khan total war
soon to be sub leader of atlantis totalwar
trivium member (i think) at TWC
civities at TWC (though kinda by accident)
i will do watever i can to support this mod.
though there's something i cant quite remember . . . and oh yeah, all members leave ur messenger chat adress thing, and . . . wat else . . .? yeah, watever . . . .

[Byzantine Prince]

Ok that was the wrong map. Here's the right one. It's got great acount on what provinces to include:

BP i like ur ideas . . . but this will definetlively be a ahistorical mod,

Yes I agree. I never said I actually believed Atlantis actually existed in this time period. There is historical evidence to support it's existence, or the existence of an equally great civilizations before history was written though. I don't think we should load it with crap though, not when there's so much that's based on historical acounts.

BTW- BP, ur a modder right? hen u must know that there is a faction limit and so we must replace a faction, not make a new one.

Yes I am aware of that. There's plenty of ways we could this. I could cut the extreme east part of the map and then expand in the ocean. So naturally at least two other factions will go off the map and one of them can become Atlantis and then we make another we think should be somewhere. It's not that hard actually. I think the Persians could ebcome the Atlantians. Their units are actually not bad even if it didn't change them at all.

Although, it's not a problem if we conflict. I can just work with you guys and then change just mine, or maybe include a light version(my version idea) with a smaller download. How about that?