Complaint.

**Craterus** · 05-27-2005, 19:26

I voted yes. I never played MTW, but this featuresounds like it would add more depth, even make it a bit more challenging, so I wouldn't mind it.

**Mikeus Caesar** · 05-27-2005, 19:34

Craterus, you don't what you are missing. Loyalty means you end up having to keep an eye on your generals as well as the enemy generals, because if there are too many disloyal generals, then your entire campaign can be ruined as your mighty empire is suddenly ripped in two by civil war. It has happened to me only once on MTW, playing as the italians, all of Germany and Eastern Europe bowed down to me, and i was making a move into the steppes, when Civil War broke out. To make matters worse, the Germans reappeared in the exact same turn. My empire broke in two, and within ten years everything had fallen apart, and i was back at the start. Provinces ruined, empire weakened.

Fraction re-emergance and loyalty make the game much harder than RTW is right now.

**Marcus Maxentius** · 05-27-2005, 21:17

Maybe for generals and captains. I'd like to see them defect to the other side without losing their units or changing uniforms. Generals kinda have that in the trait system. Captains are more bribable. But to have them desert for more than a gold coin would be nice. Maybe the farther and longer they fight away from the capital, the higher the chance they could go over to the other side. If your treasury gets too low or squalor or corruption is too high, they'll say enough is enough. To fix this maybe you'd be forced to place a taskmaster pro-consul to influence your far-off garrisons.

**Uesugi Kenshin** · 05-28-2005, 03:30

Loyalty was a great feature and made the game much better. It was fun to have your generals revolt and then choose between your good general or your king. I usually went with the rebels and put down the loyalist forces.

**Come Together** · 05-28-2005, 03:34

I loved the civil war in MTW, it added so much depth to the game, and could make or break a nation. I remember so many failed campaigns with the French due to the dang unfaithful soldiers.

**Soviet_AK-47** · 05-28-2005, 04:54

Sounds Awesome. I love rebels, and RTW doesn't let you do anything with 'em. I hope I can actually become a rebel leader...I AM GOING TO BUY BARBARIAN INVASION NOW!!!! when it comes out...

**IliaDN** · 05-28-2005, 05:47

Not to post new thread - just another question : would you like to see re-appearing factions restored?
As for me I am all for that.
It could optional ( like " govern all towns ) just to bring more more action and interest in yhe game.