Marius Reforms

**IrishMike** · 06-02-2005, 14:49

So as i'm playing patch 1.2, I got the imperial palace, just no marius reforms. Now I remeber the patch 1.2 set a date when they were to begin, but I don't remeber the date. After much searching, could somebody plz tell me the date.

Thanks

**Epistolary Richard** · 06-02-2005, 15:12

220BC + a random element so they might kick in as late as 180BC or even further.

**IrishMike** · 06-02-2005, 15:30

Ah ic, thanks for the info.

**Cardinal** · 06-05-2005, 03:40

Originally Posted by Epistolary Richard

220BC + a random element so they might kick in as late as 180BC or even further.

Quite ironic then that the Marian reform took place round 100 BC...... but it adds to the gameplay so screw history.

**Ice** · 06-05-2005, 15:55

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Quite ironic then that the Marian reform took place round 100 BC...... but it adds to the gameplay so screw history.

I am usually done by 170 Bc, so I think thats why they made them earlier.

**katank** · 06-05-2005, 16:48

I personally rarely have games last past 240BC. Why did they push it so far back? At least praetorians are buildable before reforms now.

**Viking** · 06-05-2005, 17:31

That`s `cause of your blitzing katank, but I agree.
Something between 1.0 and 1.2 would worked better.

**katank** · 06-05-2005, 21:12

Yep, 1.0 reforms feels like an exploit. I got reforms in 257 without even trying much.

A date of 240 with palace in Italy would probably be good.

I also think the bribing cost should be somewhere in the middle as well. It used to be too easy but is now prohibitively expensive.