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**barocca** · 05-28-2005, 10:48

thanks R'as,
i think you hae explained that to me before,
(and being sleep deprived with a new baby, well, you'll likely have to explain it to me again before we are through)

what i am thinking is we have duplicate units
one for SP and one for MP

for example
Ashigaru
and
MP_Ashigaru

by setting the unit name in changes to recognise MP_Ashigaru as Ashigaru the online game will be nice and clean.

we can then have different stats/settings for the SP and MP version.

by using the no-faction, all-faction, specific faction switches and the era switches
the MP game wont be cluttered by "fantasy"/"additional" units unless you choose the era containing them

keep everyone happy by doing our best to give everyone the game they want, SP and MP players

Cheers,
B.

**cegorach** · 05-28-2005, 12:09

In my opinion 'the fear factor' works quite well if used properly.

Anyway, here is an idea.

If you are going to place some battlefield ninjas looking like ordinary ashigaru/samurai units and with the same name as these ( very good idea I believe) it is advisible to use the fear to enhance their battlefield performance.

Why ?

Because when the outfits and the name of the unit can deceive someone he can keep the mouse for more time learning that this weird ashigaru have excellent attack - or something similar - in general they aren't the ordinary ashigaru, somehow. So it is better to conceal their combat power more by lowering their stats and adding only the fear effect for the unit.

Fortunatelly MTW allows making certain units fear certain enemies only ( not like in the RTW infantry/cavalry/etc in general) which is a blessing, although it should be used well.

Regards Cegorach

**Puzz3D** · 05-28-2005, 16:14

Originally Posted by barocca

what i am thinking is we have duplicate units
one for SP and one for MP

for example
Ashigaru
and
MP_Ashigaru

by setting the unit name in changes to recognise MP_Ashigaru as Ashigaru the online game will be nice and clean.

we can then have different stats/settings for the SP and MP version.

barocca,

You don't seem to understand. Samurai Wars is already set up like that. MP has it's own set of units, and there is no need for changing the names. Both the SP and MP stat duplicate as closely as possible the gameplay of original STW as you requested. The hatamoto, kensai, ninja, xbows and naginata cavalry were integrated into the original STW SP unit set after that set was balanced. We didn't use kensai or xbows in the MP stat. I would be in favor of introducing Mongols to MP as a new era because they would downgrade the balance that exists in Samurai Wars Sengoku Era.

**barocca** · 05-28-2005, 17:36

i am wondering if the identical name replication is causing the reported dead bodies errors?

(plus i get confused with the duplicate names too)

**R'as al Ghul** · 05-30-2005, 10:40

barocca,

for further clarification the structure of the unit_prod in Gnome:

Code:

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Gnome Editor    Content
1-165	     Medieval units
167-170      STW Agents+Ship
171-181      Medieval Agents
182-195	     MP units (No Faction)
196-212	     SP units (All Factions)
213-214      mounts