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    Though I don't think this will necessarily solve the problem, I think the sentiment is right.

    As for those who state 'banning guns and you get another weapon to replace it'. Look at the crime / death / injuries tables for our knife problem then do the same for your guns. If you still think out knife problem is the same as your gun problem you must be looking at the wrong tables.
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    It's because British people like being protected from their own stupidity. If it was practical to cover the entire country in padding, someone would have suggested it. Someone probably has anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDC
    It's because British people like being protected from their own stupidity. If it was practical to cover the entire country in padding, someone would have suggested it. Someone probably has anyway.

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    Default Re: If it's not one thing, it's another...

    Though I don't think this will necessarily solve the problem, I think the sentiment is right.

    As for those who state 'banning guns and you get another weapon to replace it'. Look at the crime / death / injuries tables for our knife problem then do the same for your guns. If you still think out knife problem is the same as your gun problem you must be looking at the wrong tables.
    Our 'gun problem'? I wasn't aware of any such thing.

    The very fact that someone has proposed this means that another weapon will always replace the one in hand for a determined criminal-or even a bunch of yobs. Was there such a knife problem before guns were banned? And what do you think will happen if, somehow, the cops get all the sharp pointy kitchen knives out of those people's hands who are unfit to use them? They'll just use a different knife or weapon. Soon enough, they'll ban cricket bats and metal wrenches.

    But this course of legislation is fundamentally misguided. It renders the law-abiding citizen defenseless to the packs of scum that roam the cities. Then, seeing as the criminals are still (Surprise!) acting criminally and using weapons, they ban more and more items which -surprise again!- the criminals ignore. And you end up with a knife problem created by gov't policies.

    Oh, and could you answer the questions I posed in the first post, such as:

    Especially since knife carrying by most individuals seems to be illegal. If they can't enforce that law, how can they enforce this?
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    CR, I am not sure you understand my country very well or in fact what I stated in my post.
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    GARCIN: I died too soon. I wasn't allowed time to - to do my deeds.
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    They're not trying to ban knives as a whole, just the apparently needlessly long and sharp ones. It makes sense to a certain degree; swords, axes and things have special regulations and aren't allowed to be sharp if you keep them. Cane swords were recently legalised in Canada, but shuriken are still expressly banned.

    What would be the proper solution, then, if banning unnecessarily long knives isn't?

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    Next- corks on the end of forks.

    Quote Originally Posted by JAG
    Though I don't think this will necessarily solve the problem, I think the sentiment is right.

    As for those who state 'banning guns and you get another weapon to replace it'. Look at the crime / death / injuries tables for our knife problem then do the same for your guns. If you still think out knife problem is the same as your gun problem you must be looking at the wrong tables.
    Still you think crime in the UK is so much less? Crime rates in the US have been falling for what? a decade now? Which way are they going in the UK? Maybe you're looking at the wrong tables.

    Despite the gun-grabbing policies in the UK firearm crimes continue to rise.
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