Which faction do you want to ad to EB if there was no faction limit?

**TheTank** · 05-29-2005, 19:11

Originally Posted by bodidley

The Cimbri-Teutoni tribes as another Germanic faction.

It is not clear that the Cimbri-Teutoni where Germanic.
They could be Celts or a mixture of both..
A fact is that some Celtic tribes did joined the Cimbri-Teutoni like the Helvetii...

**caesar44** · 05-29-2005, 19:48

1. nabatean kingdom
2. gaetulians
3. mauritanians
4. cliant kingdom of judaea
5. belgae
6. kingdom of numidia
7. cantabrians
8. epirus
9. kingdom of ilyria
10. iaziges
11. suabi
12. marcomani

**Atheist_Peace** · 05-29-2005, 20:21

Mauryans
Arvernii
Nabataens
Kingdom of Kush
Axum
Numidia
Illyria
Scythians
Epirus
Bosporus Kingdom
Separate Greek City states
Seubi
Galatians

well what i would really want is to have every province belong to the faction that it belonged to in 272 BCE, meaning like hundreds of different factions.

**bodidley** · 05-30-2005, 01:01

Originally Posted by TheTank

It is not clear that the Cimbri-Teutoni where Germanic.
They could be Celts or a mixture of both..
A fact is that some Celtic tribes did joined the Cimbri-Teutoni like the Helvetii...

Yep, not proven at all. I don't think an alliance with Celtic tribes neccesarily points out that they were Celtic though, because there was not a particular inclination for the different cultures to be hostile. Also, being "Celtic" is largely a question of culture rather than ethnicity; the Gauls were not particularly related to the Britons or peoples living on good old Hibernia, and there were some cases where tribes ethnicly associated with Germanic tribes had adopted Celtic culture.

If we can only have two Germanic tribes, then maybe they should be the Suebii and the Marcomani.

**Steppe Merc** · 05-30-2005, 01:06

Hey Bo Diddley! (funky Bo Diddley bit on guitar inserted here)

From my limited knowledge, I believe that a lot of different people mixed all over the world, so I think that it would make sense that at least some Celts mixed with the Germans as they were moving around Gaul.

**bodidley** · 05-30-2005, 04:44

Good to know there are Bo Diddley connoisseurs in the EB community

**Pycckuu** · 06-01-2005, 04:12

I think it could be interseting if nations, such as greeks or germans had several sub-factions, each representing a city-state/tribe. That could bring out alot of small factions that you can have fun playing with.

**bodidley** · 06-01-2005, 17:28

If the diplomacy engine were more complicated then tribes within confederations could be better represented, but as is it isn't easy to do.

If there were "conferacy", "league" and "vassal" mechanisms that could be used to form international armies it could be done, but Total War has never been very focused on diplomacy.

**TheTank** · 06-01-2005, 19:33

I think if there was no real limit of factions in RTW and EB included "all" states, tribes or whatever it would take ages to compute the next turn in RTW...

We have upgrade our pc's to dual pentuim 20 Ghz pentium 5's

**eadingas** · 06-01-2005, 19:43

Nah, I don't think so, since most of these factions would be tiny 1-2 province ones in the beginning, and AI never spends much time on them, and after a while most of the little ones would be gone gobbled up by their faster and more active neighbours, so it would even out. The most always AI thinks about are the big ones, like Seleucids or Slaves.

**bodidley** · 06-01-2005, 21:19

Originally Posted by TheTank

I think if there was no real limit of factions in RTW and EB included "all" states, tribes or whatever it would take ages to compute the next turn in RTW...

We have upgrade our pc's to dual pentuim 20 Ghz pentium 5's

It all depends on how you program the game I suppose. Computers nowadays (even low-end ones) are pretty good at doing a lot of brute calculations. Many games made by Slitherine have scores of factions and the turns take less time to compute than RTW.

**TheTank** · 06-01-2005, 22:21

Originally Posted by bodidley

It all depends on how you program the game I suppose. Computers nowadays (even low-end ones) are pretty good at doing a lot of brute calculations. Many games made by Slitherine have scores of factions and the turns take less time to compute than RTW.

Agree, How the game is programmed does mater.
Example like Morrowind (very good game) frame rate is not very high (20FPS) on my pc compared with Farcry because of the way the games are programmed.
Morrowind renders 3d graphics in a very inefficient way because of the engine that is used.
Farcry looks better and runs faster on my 1,8 Ghz p4 :embarrassed: than Morrowind...
I hope morrowind's successor does a better job at this.

PS: Dux Corvanus
Thank for your invitation, I will take it under consideration