Money question

**www2** · 05-28-2005, 19:59

I am geting close to the end of my campaign.

Just concquered Rome and need 13 more regions to finnish.

Now my question is this......all along the game my average income per turn was 10 to 15 k. Is this a OK number or is it suposed to be bigger,if so how much bigger.

What is your income avearge.

**Shottie** · 05-28-2005, 20:05

This probably won't help you but I go into one of the RTW folders and change the starting money I have before I play a campaign because I have enough problems with keeping my provences and all. If you cant for some fun on your next campaign I can tell you how to do it.

**The_678** · 05-28-2005, 20:48

I hear people saying all the time that they have hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I have never been able to make that much money. I usually average around 10-20k and spend most of it every turn as well. I think my problem is that I build too many units. I am producing units pretty much everywhere every turn, and if that city don't build good units, I'll build spie/assassins or even peasants. Maybe less unit production would be better, but I love haveing the massive armies.

**www2** · 05-28-2005, 21:01

Originally Posted by The_678

I hear people saying all the time that they have hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I have never been able to make that much money. I usually average around 10-20k and spend most of it every turn as well. I think my problem is that I build too many units. I am producing units pretty much everywhere every turn, and if that city don't build good units, I'll build spie/assassins or even peasants. Maybe less unit production would be better, but I love haveing the massive armies.

My exact situation.

**The_678** · 05-28-2005, 21:04

In my current greek campaign I have all of greece, macedonia, the coastal provinces in asia minor and sicily and I am never seeing more than 10000 denarii ever. But I have the mightiest armies in the world by a long shot according to the faction ratings scroll.

**www2** · 05-28-2005, 21:06

Another q?

Not directly to do with money,but with concquering Rome.

I just concquered it and imediatellly agrred cease fire with Scipii and Brutii but at the next turn I am again at war with them.

Does this mean that I am doomed to fight them till the end or can I make peace with them.

**Dutch_guy** · 05-28-2005, 22:13

I once made peace with the Brutii after ending my alliance with the senate.
So yes it is possible.

As for the money thing, you really don't want to have to much money, if you get more then 50 K you will have an increased chance that your governors will get the corrupt trait ( 60% decreas in cost to bribe something like that ) and other negative traits.

Just spend it all if you can que up buildings etc,
so The_678 it really isn't as big problem as you might think it is, people who make more money a turn than you just have less standing army;s or they garrisson their city's with less troops

**Conqueror** · 05-28-2005, 22:17

The Romans are just hardheads like that. They don't know what's good for them, especially if it has anything to do with peace. So you will have to kill them off, make them protectorates or suffer their attacks. If you don't have enough troops to garrison their provinces, or don't want to risk over extending, then you can sack and burn their cities to weaken them.

**Aesculapius** · 05-29-2005, 08:10

Personally, I think it's one of the marks of a good RTW player that they keep their treasury between 0 and 50 000. Not only does this reduce corruption, as Dutch Guy pointed out; but money in the bank is money wasted (Bank of RTW pays lousy interest rates!).

Basically, if you have too LITTLE money, your armies aren't working hard enough; and if you have too MUCH money, then your money isn't working hard enough. Use your spare cash to build more armies/fleets and develop a new campaign front, be it aggressive (preferably) or defensive.

Taking the argument further, I would suggest NOT stacking up long build queues. Money tied up in buildings that will only be built in 20 turns' time is just as wasted as money sitting in the treasury doing nothing. Your best investment (apart from immediate city improvements) is new armies that can go forth and conquer faster. Keep the long build-queue manouevre for when you have to park excess money in a hurry.

Originally Posted by Shottie

This probably won't help you but I go into one of the RTW folders and change the starting money I have before I play a campaign because I have enough problems with keeping my provences and all. If you cant for some fun on your next campaign I can tell you how to do it.

And honestly, why give yourself more money? Isn't the campaign easy enough already?

(Actually perhaps that's a bit unfair - I've not played any of the barbarian factions yet, and I'm sure they must struggle with their economy. And I only play on H/H, not VH).