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    I am working on lists of samurai at the moment

    the object is to give each clan at least 120 unique members (40 leaders and 80 generals) plus at least half a dozen hero's

    we do not know if the game engine can handle such huge lists,
    but i believe it can

    possible clans (depending on just how many real names i can locate)
    (29 possibles so far - will have to test just how many the game can handle at one time)
    Code:
    Amako		Asakura-asai	Ashikaga	Chosokabe
    Date		Hoganji		Hojo		Honda                
    Hosokawa	Ichimonji	Imagawa		Maeda
    Minamoto	Mogami		Mongol		Mori
    Oda		Otomo		Ryuzoji		Sanada
    Satake		Satomi		Shimazu		Taira
    Takeda		Tokugawa	Toyotomi	Uesugi
    Ukita

    I will post lists in this thread as i finish them.

    anyone wishing to expand on such lists is free to do so
    (please dont post lists of people until i ask for them,
    i have plenty of lists - now i have to read and sort them all)
    Last edited by barocca; 05-29-2005 at 00:37.
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    The game can "hold" 32 clans at once, including rebels,
    that gives me 31 "active" clans possible,

    Today I have added Hatakeyama to the list,
    despite only being 60% through sorting my resources i just keep running into details about Hatakeyama that have given me more than enough members to make a clan,

    some others are still running"short"

    (i have 20MB+ of text files, each with lists and dates and heirs and events, they need to be read, names compiled into lists and then the lists cross-referenced to avoiud duplicates)

    30 proposed active clans (still room for one more)
    Code:
    Amako		Asakura-asai	Ashikaga	Chosokabe
    Date		Hoganji		Hojo		Honda                
    Hosokawa	Ichimonji	Imagawa		Maeda
    Minamoto	Mogami		Mongol		Mori
    Oda		Otomo		Ryuzoji		Sanada
    Satake		Satomi		Shimazu		Taira
    Takeda		Tokugawa	Toyotomi	Uesugi
    Ukita		Hatakeyama

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    With the inclusion of the Taira, Minamoto and Mongol factions I guess this is the list for all planned eras including the earlier ones. With the Sengoku-jidai being the most popular era for gamers it makes sense to have a preponderance of the well-known later clans.

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    well the inclusion of minamoto and taira allows for earlier campaigns,
    Onin war, Gempei war and so on,

    of course i dont know much about those,

    Naturally we want the Mongol capmaigns as well :-)

    that is the plan
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    I've got a pretty large amount of data on all aspects of the early samurai period if you ever need it (11th-14th Centuries - 'Way of Horse and Bow' era). To be honest I think this period might make an interesting (to me anyway ;) ) sub-mod with a different set of clans, starting territories etc. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshitsune
    I've got a pretty large amount of data on all aspects of the early samurai period if you ever need it (11th-14th Centuries - 'Way of Horse and Bow' era). To be honest I think this period might make an interesting (to me anyway ;) ) sub-mod with a different set of clans, starting territories etc. Good luck!
    IF you wish to
    1. determine your list of clans,
    2. which shogun province/provinces the clan should have at campaign start,
    2a - what date is campaign start!!
    3. provide me with an image displaying their mon/symbol and perhaps what colours should be associated with them,
    4. what is special about the clan? (unit specialty) (or nothing special at all is ok too)
    5. what unit mix is available for the time period (any restrictions on clans)
    6. are there any "missing" unit types as far as you are concerned
    (cannot promise, but can have a look-see what can be done)
    7. determine if my list of titles for provinces and buidlings is ok.
    8. a tech tree please (we can make the prod files, then again you can make prod files if you so desire)

    8. Names.
    preferably a clan should have 30 to 40 leaders, 60 to 80 generals and 5 to 10 heroes/villians

    list needs to include minimal data
    name
    date of birth (approx)
    special attribute for Famous leaders (min 2 leaders - max 5) and the Heroes (min 0 heroes - max 10)
    (go easy on the stats - too big makes game less fun)

    now 95 to 130 names IS a big ask,

    Leaders IS the important one,

    Look for leaders "known as x when child", "also known as", "changed name to" , titles held, nicknames, etc etc

    still not enough?
    look for "patterns" in their names, you can then generate fictional heirs based on what you think they may have called them,
    as long as the bulk are (or were) real people a few extra heirs wont matter that much to me at all.

    WHAT CLANS were Retainers of your chosen clans?
    from them we can draw ronin to flesh out the generals and heroes


    once you have all that we have the guts of your chosen period mod

    the game IS hardcoded to 32 clans,
    but it has never been made clear if that is "at one time" or "covering all expansions"
    EITHER WAY we can easily make another mod especially for that period

    So you have 31 clans you can add - one spot must be for rebels, TOTAL 32.


    PS - if you see (in my list) any clans you want to include contact me and I can send you MY list for that clan, my lists are still under construction, but i can send you what i have so far and updates if you wish.

    cheers,
    B.

    PPS - we can do this for as many different era's as you wish to research!!
    other ideas include using the starting positions of a small war from history as the start of a full campaign,

    "what if" scenarios and so on
    B.
    Last edited by barocca; 06-17-2005 at 11:18.
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