joms vikings?

**VAE VICTUS** · 05-29-2005, 03:28

ok the joms vikings in viking invasion,was there ever such a thing as a jom viking?and if so were they as bad

@$$

as the game portrays?

**sharrukin** · 05-29-2005, 05:00

Originally Posted by VAE VICTUS

ok the joms vikings in viking invasion,was there ever such a thing as a jom viking?and if so were they as bad

@$$

as the game portrays?

Well it seems they did exist but I do not know alot about them.

"Jomsborg was a legendary Viking settlement in Pomerania by the Baltic Sea. It's generally disputed whether such a settlement existed at all, all proof coming from later times and from distant Iceland. Contemporary sources mention a city known as Julin, Jumne or Wolin, which supposedly was a home of Slavic pirates, but where Danes and other Scandinavians could also easily find refuge."

**edyzmedieval** · 05-29-2005, 09:01

Yes there were jomsvikings

They were located in Jomsborg in Norway(not Pomerania, that's what I found). In Jomsborg, there were only men. Women were not allowed. Those who dared to come close were slaughtered immediately. They were trained in very harsh conditions. Very often in battles they would go berserk.

They were very powerful soldiers!!!

**Kalle** · 05-29-2005, 09:34

Recently it seems people try to make everything that has anything to do with vikings to originate from Norway

The jomsvikings are by most considered myth not fact. Jomsborg has as earlier stated in this thread never been found. But all material I have read on the matter suggest that it is Pommerania or possibly Polish baltic cost that is the possible location of the borg (borg = fortress or castle) not Norway, I never saw anyone before this claim that it was located in Norway.

If one is to believe that Jomsborg and the Jomsvikings existed well then one can also believe they really were badasses as the same sources that claim they existed also portray them as feared and skilled fighters.

Kalle

**Byzantine Prince** · 05-29-2005, 09:57

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

Yes there were jomsvikings

They were located in Jomsborg in Norway(not Pomerania, that's what I found). In Jomsborg, there were only men. Women were not allowed. Those who dared to come close were slaughtered immediately. They were trained in very harsh conditions. Very often in battles they would go berserk.

They were very powerful soldiers!!!

Hehe, you read that ahistorical thingy in Viking Invasion?

Jomsborg was indeed located in Wendland(or Pomerania), and the existence of jomsvikings is very doubtful as well. It was however recorded that they were recruited by the king of Denmark Olaf.

**IliaDN** · 05-29-2005, 13:04

If I don't mess anything joms were an elite of vikings.
As far as I remember it was some kind of title which was earned by some heroic deeds.

**The Wizard** · 05-29-2005, 13:18

Hmm, didn't they help Olaf Tryggvasson in his saga?

~Wiz

**Spartakus** · 05-29-2005, 14:23

In fact, the Jomsvikings have their own saga, the "Saga of the Jomsvikings", quite simply. Why not read it and make up your own mind?

In my opinion they are too intertwined with the history of the times, and written of by too many chroniclers, to not have existed at all. The real problem is how correct the information we have is.

Excerpt from the Saga of King Olaf Tryggvason:

"King Svein sent word to the Jomsborg vikings that Earl Sigvalde and Bue, and their brothers, should come to him, and drink the funeral-ale for their
fathers in the same feast the king was giving. The Jomsborg vikings came to the festival with their bravest men, forty ships of them from Vindland, and twenty ships from Skane. Great was the multitude of people assembled."

The whole saga, along with many others, can be found here: Online classical and medieval library

**sharrukin** · 05-29-2005, 17:35

Originally Posted by Spartakus

In fact, the Jomsvikings have their own saga, the "Saga of the Jomsvikings", quite simply. Why not read it and make up your own mind?

In my opinion they are too intertwined with the history of the times, and written of by too many chroniclers, to not have existed at all. The real problem is how correct the information we have is.

Excerpt from the Saga of King Olaf Tryggvason:

"King Svein sent word to the Jomsborg vikings that Earl Sigvalde and Bue, and their brothers, should come to him, and drink the funeral-ale for their
fathers in the same feast the king was giving. The Jomsborg vikings came to the festival with their bravest men, forty ships of them from Vindland, and twenty ships from Skane. Great was the multitude of people assembled."

The whole saga, along with many others, can be found here: Online classical and medieval library

Vindland seems close to Wendland which is what the region of Pomerania was called at the time though Skane is southern Sweden isn't it? Those are two seperate regions so when they speak of Jomsborg vikings they do not seem to be speaking of them as a regional group at all.

Here is the Heimskringla Saga where the Jomsborg vikings are mentioned though the site you posted is better this might be easier.

http://www.worldwideschool.org/libra...me5/chap1.html

**Spartakus** · 05-29-2005, 21:20

Originally Posted by sharrukin

Vindland seems close to Wendland which is what the region of Pomerania was called at the time though Skane is southern Sweden isn't it? Those are two seperate regions so when they speak of Jomsborg vikings they do not seem to be speaking of them as a regional group at all

Indeed, I just checked my Norwegian edition, and it says Wendland, not Vindland. Skane is southern Sweden, yes, but at that time the area was held by the Danes.

The Jomsvikings sailed about a lot (of course), my guess is that those who came from Skane were just staying there at the moment. Or maybe they had a hold there too? I can only speculate, the Jomsvikings are not my field of expertise, I'm afraid.