How to host shogun MP Games.

[R'as al Ghul]

Anytime I host a game, doesn't matter if own fakeserver,
Shambles fake, or LAN my machine
listens to a random (so it seems) UDP port.
I've had several. In fact each time a different one.

I'd like to try to host a game, alt tab to my firewall,
check out which UDP it listens to, open that port,
alt tab back into lobby to check if people can see/join.

[Shambles]

Yeah every time the game conects to a server I.e my fake server.
It uses a random port.

it will use 1 after another till it finds a working 1.

I.e
I try to connect to fake server.
Shogun uses port 1221
Connection fails.
So i try again,
Shogun will now try port 1222.
If it fails and i try again
shogun will use
1223
And so on untill connection works,

this is nothing to do with actualy hosting games though,
thats just the Game connecting to a server,
Routers dont seem to mind this at all, and let you conect to the server ok.

Its just that when you host a game.
Your router says to the server.
"IM HOSTING A GAME HERE & MY IP ADRESS IS (222.333.444)"
Thats not a big problem
apart from the fact that The Pc Hosting the game has an ip of 123.456.789

So the router shoule be saying

"IM HOSTING A GAME HERE & MY IP ADRESS IS (222.333.444) BUT SEND THE INFO ON TO IP (123.456.789)"

any ports should be added aswell.

I.e

Your router is ip 123.456.789
and shogun uses port
123


Your pc's real ip adress is 222.333.444

You need to tell your router to.

Forward Data receved on 123.456.789:123
to
Your pc's ip adress and port number. 222.333.444:123

[Drisos]

R'as, my routers IP is 10.0.0.138 right? I should include that as outside IP.

But I still don't know my computers IP? (inside IP)

I should open ports 8793 18321 both udp and tcp

[R'as al Ghul]

From the screenshot it looks like the local IP
is 10.0.0.1
Sorry that it took me awhile.
drisos, you won't have any luck with those two ports.
There're more needed. Until we know fo sure I'd suggest
you don't do anything.

Shambles,
there isn't a single new thing in your post
that you hadn't already posted.
Please take no offense but you do know
what the problem is, do you?

I don't care what random port is used to
connect to fakeserver.
The only thing that matters is the port being
used when hosting, and that seems to be random, too.

[Shambles]

No matter how many times i host a game, And i can host games,
It uses the same port.

and thats
18321

I never tried playing on LAN,
Which is not the same as internet play any way and there for does not need port forwarding as you use local adresses to connect to the games,

But when playing Online. No matter HOW many times you host a game,
Shogun uses port 18321

Its just a matter of port forwarding,
Something that must be done to Most multy-player games if you want to host them,

I Know What i say is the same as Ive always said,
And the reason for that is,
Its the same question asked.

ports that are changing, are probably your shouguns connection to fake server,
if you can connect to fakeserver This is redundant and you can ignore shoguns systematic changes of ports,

but to HOST games, Shogun uses Port "18321"
It always uses that port,
Check this your self

Start shogun.
Enter mp foyer
host game
And proceed to faction select window,

Now go look at what port shogun is Listening for data on.
Its going to be
port 18321.

The problem is one that Many people haft to resolve,
Its a matter of telling your router to forward the data from the router to the pc,

The port that people need to see is 18321.
That port allows people to see the hosted game,
Its all the info i can give you really,


port 8793 is how shogun finds fakeserver,
It then connects using difrent ports.

Port 18321 is the port you host on.


And look here,
http://www.whatismyip.com/
Thats you Ip adress.

BTW
Have a look.

[R'as al Ghul]

Start shogun.
Enter mp foyer
host game
And proceed to faction select window,

Now go look at what port shogun is Listening for data on.
Its going to be
port 18321.

Nope, nothing happens.
BTW, I've forwarded 18321 as have others and we still can't host.
What's your explanantion for this?
We haven't configured properly?

I still think you don't understand....

[R'as al Ghul]

This is my firewall when I host a game on your fakeserver.
The only connection is a random port to your 8793.
The same as when I simply log in.

[Shambles]

Nope, nothing happens.
BTW, I've forwarded 18321 as have others and we still can't host.
What's your explanantion for this?
We haven't configured properly?

I still think you don't understand....

I dont think You understand,
And thats why you cant host games.

[x-dANGEr]

Just out of curiosity, how can you know what ports is a game using? I do have a Windows firewall (XP) along with a router. All I do is get dazzled till I know what are the ports needed then I forward them. But how can you know what ports are needed anyway?

[Just A Girl]

I use keriop personal fore wall.
Whenever i connect to shogun i go and check what port is used.
These ports change.

When i host a game i go check which posts shogun is now using.
It always uses The same port when you host.

Thats how i know to forward that port.

[Drisos]

hmmm. When I fix the problem, I will be able to host, because I can now bypass my router. hooray!

[Just A Girl]

The foyer is much emptyer without you drisos.
Hope you fix your prob soon.
would be nice to battle again.

[Drisos]

I know my friend. I hate this situation as well... I don't know what to find worse - not being able to play while others are having games - or - knowing that because of my absence no one is playing...

I am not going to give up on this game. I can beat the computer!

[Just A Girl]

There is some sign of slight promis BTW.

from what A nother member said.

It seems they were able to log in to the foyer Quite easily when they accidentaly installed Warlord ediiton Over there origional STW folder.
(Mistaing warlord edition for the MI expantion)

Given the fact that the origional shogun suffers no real log in probs wven under XP.
And this chance discovery was made.

I am begining to beleve that there is a file/folder in the origional stw, game directory That is missing or prehaps diferent in WE.
It could even be a registry matter, which could be discoverd quite easily now we have some new data.

With any kind of good fortune.
this will be the case.
and a simple matter of trial and error of adding origional STW files to a nother install of WE could indeed allow us to Distribute the missing file to all who have log in problems.

Alternetavly if its a regestry problem,
A similar trial and error course of action could be taken with adding STW registry strings to the WE registry strings.
This could also be easily distributed.

I am quite exited about this new discovery my self.
But I will try not to get my hopes up about it.