How to host shogun MP Games.

[Shambles]

No matter how many times i host a game, And i can host games,
It uses the same port.

and thats
18321

I never tried playing on LAN,
Which is not the same as internet play any way and there for does not need port forwarding as you use local adresses to connect to the games,

But when playing Online. No matter HOW many times you host a game,
Shogun uses port 18321

Its just a matter of port forwarding,
Something that must be done to Most multy-player games if you want to host them,

I Know What i say is the same as Ive always said,
And the reason for that is,
Its the same question asked.

ports that are changing, are probably your shouguns connection to fake server,
if you can connect to fakeserver This is redundant and you can ignore shoguns systematic changes of ports,

but to HOST games, Shogun uses Port "18321"
It always uses that port,
Check this your self

Start shogun.
Enter mp foyer
host game
And proceed to faction select window,

Now go look at what port shogun is Listening for data on.
Its going to be
port 18321.

The problem is one that Many people haft to resolve,
Its a matter of telling your router to forward the data from the router to the pc,

The port that people need to see is 18321.
That port allows people to see the hosted game,
Its all the info i can give you really,


port 8793 is how shogun finds fakeserver,
It then connects using difrent ports.

Port 18321 is the port you host on.


And look here,
http://www.whatismyip.com/
Thats you Ip adress.

BTW
Have a look.

[R'as al Ghul]

Start shogun.
Enter mp foyer
host game
And proceed to faction select window,

Now go look at what port shogun is Listening for data on.
Its going to be
port 18321.

Nope, nothing happens.
BTW, I've forwarded 18321 as have others and we still can't host.
What's your explanantion for this?
We haven't configured properly?

I still think you don't understand....

[R'as al Ghul]

This is my firewall when I host a game on your fakeserver.
The only connection is a random port to your 8793.
The same as when I simply log in.

[R'as al Ghul]

When hosting on LAN:



Opinions?

[R'as al Ghul]

And finally when I'm hosting on my own fakeserver.
Isn't it peculiar that only when I'm hosting on LAN
the port 18321 is used?

[Shambles]

Nope, nothing happens.
BTW, I've forwarded 18321 as have others and we still can't host.
What's your explanantion for this?
We haven't configured properly?

I still think you don't understand....

I dont think You understand,
And thats why you cant host games.

[Drisos]

Shambles,
there isn't a single new thing in your post
that you hadn't already posted.
you don't know
what the problem is, do you?

Nope, nothing happens.
BTW, I've forwarded 18321 as have others and we still can't host.
What's your explanantion for this?
We haven't configured properly?

I still think you don't understand....

I dont think You understand,
And thats why you cant host games.

No more of this please. We cannot afford fights in the small stw mp community.

I say: Ignore eachother about this point. R'as, start your own thread and don't post in this one anymore. Shambles, keep posting in this one and don't do so in the thread R'as will post. You two both post your own way of hosting games in stw mp and let the players decide which way they'll choose.

Remember that there are no winners in fights, only losers.

Hope the both of you fix it.

[R'as al Ghul]

I dont think You understand,
And thats why you cant host games.

Fair enough. You return my insult. Okay
I provoked that and I'm not really mad because of it
but that the echo of my insult is the only thing
I hear from you is a bit disappointing.

You haven't adressed the problem at hand a single time.
Sure you've told us to open the ports 8793 and 18321.
But you fail to acknowledge that people still can't host
although they have opened the ports.
There's no use in telling me that I shall open the ports
when I've told you that they are already open.

And believe me I do understand. I can host MTW games.
I can host other games, filesharing works, I can seed with bittorrent,etc.
I do understand my firewall and my router perfectly.

My problem is that my game doesn't open a port when
I host online. It does open the port when I host on LAN though.
(Btw, ports are also used in LAN, contrary to what you've said above)
This is something that you probably can't solve but ignoring
my questions all the time and telling me I don't understand
instead of telling me that you don't know the answer is an insult.

[Shambles]

The game does use ports when in Lan And thats not what i said,
I said you use a local adress when playing on lan, So router wont affect it,

If the game does not attempt to open a port when you begin hosting games, that implies That its not the routers fault, and your game is not functioning properly,

Id love to tell you whats wrong with your game, But I dont suffer this problem,
So i cant really work on fixing it,

Some where along the line something is either blocking shogun from opening aditional ports. I.e Fire wall.
Windows fire wall Could be causing problems for some,

The most logical explanation Is,
fire wall settings are incorrect,
And not allowing shogun to open that port,
If the router forwards the port to the right Ip adress.
Then fire wall settings should be tested,

Personaly id find some 1 to come help me see if hosted games work without fire wall runing,
then systematicaly disable programs 1 by 1 untill i can host,

There could simply be an error some where in your game,
However i dont think that is the case.

I really think it could be a firewall problem, if the routers are fine, then it can only be a fire wall problem,

[R'as al Ghul]

If the game does not attempt to open a port when you begin hosting games, that implies That its not the routers fault, and your game is not functioning properly,

Ahh, now you're talking business. That's exactly what I've thought.

Id love to tell you whats wrong with your game, But I dont suffer this problem,
So i cant really work on fixing it,

I understand that perfectly. Nevertheless I appreciate that you took
the time to look into it.
I take it we have reestablished peace now?
I apologize for getting .... impatient and slightly mad.

Some where along the line something is either blocking shogun from opening aditional ports. I.e Fire wall.
Windows fire wall Could be causing problems for some,

It's really a dilemma.
I've XP firewall disabled.
Sygate firewall allows Shogun everything but I keep it running to monitor the connections. I had turned it off once to test with drisos.
Directplay test of Directx returned positive.
I've Upnp enabled.
My router forwards the posts - 100% positive here.

As Shambles said, it looks like my Shogun.exe is not working properly
because it doesn't listen to the host port 18321 when on WAN (only when on LAN).
I really would like to see the firewall-logs of others who can't host,
just to know if their games at least open the port.

[Shambles]

Your shogun exe seems to be called shogunM.exe
and mine is called shogunW.exe

is this becous you have shogun MI and not WE?
The problem could be a MI problem i suppose,
I know that the origional shogun cant host games on Fakeserve,
But then again the origional shogun cant See games either.

I dont know what i can do to try and fix this problem, as i dont actualy own mongol invasion.
but i will see what I can find out,

[Drisos]

Personaly id find some 1 to come help me see if hosted games work without fire wall runing,
then systematicaly disable programs 1 by 1 untill i can host

sorry for late reply - I am all yours. Please pm me when you want to do such thing.

Anyone knows something about the 'logging in' problem. I mean the fact that much people need to try 4-7 times before they log in. and some people can't log in at all... I figured that might have something to do with port 8793, as the fakeserver uses it.. but then I don't get why it does work the 7th time...

anyone can explain this? what is wrong and how it should be solved?

[Drisos]

I ran into this accidentally.. it's about hosting with router:

http://p223.ezboard.com/fshoguntotal...icID=282.topic