Sweet Realistic Medieval Combat (Mount and Blade)

[Jolt]

Well, my character has been a vassal of the Rhodok King for 500 days. I still only have a Town, a Village and four Castles (Last two I got back to back in the space of a week when we destroyed the Vaegirs just now). Still a loyal vassal and with no thoughts of rebellion. Problem is the burden of all my garrisons (All elites - 500 in my town and 200/300 in all Castles) and is becoming worrisome. I went from 90000 gold to having to ration my recruiting due to low gold in like two months. I think I'm in need of another town. Plus my gold generation is heavily, heavily based on Rhodok-Surranid routes. If Rhodok goes into conflict with the Sultanate, my trade routes will be pretty screwed up (Besides most of my industries being in Surranid cities). And there's the problem that I have Halmar town, Saren village and Weyyah Castle, all of which border Surranid territory.

[Centurion1]

yeah garrisons shouldnt all be elites. if you have 300 troops in a twon the ai wont attack because it goes after the weakest target. they could be 300 peasants all that matters is numbers

[Prussian to the Iron]

yeah garrisons shouldnt all be elites. if you have 300 troops in a twon the ai wont attack because it goes after the weakest target. they could be 300 peasants all that matters is numbers

So you're saying that I could basically dump all my elite guys somewhere, go out and recruit 200 recruits from villages, garrison them, and nobody would really attack? that seems too easy for some reason.


But still, elites aren't necessary to garrison towns and castles. Even if peasants will do it, I would use a bunch of tier 2 guys; still low upkeep, but they can at least fight a little bit. Plus for some factions they have both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon, which is ideal in siege defense.

[Hooahguy]

I find that a garrison of 175 is plenty for defending a castle. 230 for defending a city. Very rarely do you get a very large force besieging your holdings, at least not in Native or Floris and definitely not after a long war. The average enemy army is like 75-110. Largest Ive seen who isnt a king is 220. But this probably has something to do with the fact that the Sarranids, Khergits, Swadians, and Vaegirs were all in a long war with each other and it just ended.
Personally, I have a "bank" of troops, like 400 who I have training in one castle in the center of my empire so if I need troops I can just head there and get mid-level troops immediately and I dont have to waste money on mercenaries. This strategy really works when fighting Swadians since they also tend to have mid-high leveled troops. Im in a prolonged war with Swadia right now and its really helping me.

Also, does anyone know why sometimes you make ladders for sieges and sometimes its siege towers? I hate waiting for siege towers to be built cause it takes like 40 hours and thats a lot of time that my lands are not defended from Swadian armies. Ive had like 7 towns raided. I probably should start breaking up my war party. All I really need are three armies. Me with 300, and two others with 200. I can send the rest to defend our land.

[Centurion1]

So you're saying that I could basically dump all my elite guys somewhere, go out and recruit 200 recruits from villages, garrison them, and nobody would really attack? that seems too easy for some reason.


But still, elites aren't necessary to garrison towns and castles. Even if peasants will do it, I would use a bunch of tier 2 guys; still low upkeep, but they can at least fight a little bit. Plus for some factions they have both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon, which is ideal in siege defense.

didnt say they wouldn't just said that they would look for easier targets which your allies provide. the ai doesnt look for QUALITY when sieging just quantity......

do you think I just pull stuff like that from my ***

[Jolt]

didnt say they wouldn't just said that they would look for easier targets which your allies provide. the ai doesnt look for QUALITY when sieging just quantity......

do you think I just pull stuff like that from my ***

Nevertheless, I've already had my 500 town besieged and attacked by a 1500 Khergit army. Needless to say only their last wave managed to actually reach melee range.

[Greyblades]

...Realy? How'd you manage that?

[Centurion1]

khergits suck at sieges in a ridiculously bad way. also sieges in native are lmao funny.

[Greyblades]

I've found sieges somewhat easy(if distressingly fatal to the troops I actually want to keep alive) its just I have never been able to kill an entire wave without them getting to head bashing distance.

[Hooahguy]

My 3mp1re is tota11y 1337.

[Greyblades]

PICS or GO n00b.

[Hooahguy]

Part 1 of my uber-1337 empire that is sure to grow and needs two pics because its so 1337:

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[Greyblades]

Huh.
A normal person would say you spend too much time on that. I on the other hand think I dont spend enough.

[Crazed Rabbit]

Has anybody played Vikingr? This looks like it could be pretty cool.

I'm gonna be there if they have room.

CR

[rajpoot]

OK I haven't done much multiplayer aside from LAN with friends, so if you lot can help, how exactly does one get into this Vikingr thing?

[Crazed Rabbit]

You have to download the mod (for warband 1.134) from the taleworlds forums; http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,202.0.html

For these shield battles (which didn't work out for me today because my install is giving me problems) you'll need teamspeak 3 as well. Then you just need to get online at the right time and play. They've got guides in the link above on how to fight in a shieldwall.

CR

[rajpoot]

You have to download the mod (for warband 1.134) from the taleworlds forums; http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,202.0.html

For these shield battles (which didn't work out for me today because my install is giving me problems) you'll need teamspeak 3 as well. Then you just need to get online at the right time and play. They've got guides in the link above on how to fight in a shieldwall.

CR

Thanks. So, all I need to do after all this is look for the server running Vikingr? What'll be it's name?

[Crazed Rabbit]

I think there's just one now; Enjihar (or something similar) in Europe. You can find it (and any other Vikingr servers) easily by sorting by module name.

I'm not sure if it's up all the time.

CR

[Hooahguy]

The cRPG mod is also quite good. Frustrating at first since you have almost nothing and you are facing off against people with full plate armor, after a bit things get easier.

[rajpoot]

OK I just spent half the morning being slaughtered and then summarily being kicked from servers because I was slaughtered.
So does anyone know any servers for multiplayer newbies?

Edit:
Forget it, my connection is the problem, I keep getting disconnected and somehow it says I've been kicked.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

How can you provoke another faction to attack your faction?
I am trying to make Sarranids attack Swadians. Have raided their caravans and looted their villages but nothing. My honour have dropped a lot because of this.

[Hooahguy]

If you are close with the faction leader of one of the faction leaders, I think you can go up to them and suggest war with another faction, but I think that may only be with the Diplomacy mod.
But I also think you have to be a vassal of one of the factions to do so.

[Centurion1]

If you are close with the faction leader of one of the faction leaders, I think you can go up to them and suggest war with another faction, but I think that may only be with the Diplomacy mod.
But I also think you have to be a vassal of one of the factions to do so.

thats the diplomacy mod not vanilla you are correct.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I am a vassal.
Anyway, Swadia declared war on Rhodoks recently and that means I have something to do now. Though, I really wanted a war with Sarranids. Hate Rhodoks because of their crossbows.

[rajpoot]

Incase you lot haven't found it yet, there's this nice little tool that allows you to play with the number which work behind M&B. It means, that you can 'influence' certain things to do certain things you want to do quicker (as long as you don't mind toeing the 'cheating' line a little).
For instance, you can make cattle follow you. And you can change the number of hours a game checks for war/peace proposals, and the percentage of one occurring. Then say once you have your war, you can change the numbers back.

Here is the link. It's compatible with the latest version of Warband, and works with quite a few mods (IE you can modify the mods too).

[Ibn-Khaldun]

I use TweakMB already. Though, I think I missed the tweak for war/peace.

[rajpoot]

Although I was pretty sure about it before, now that I am checking it again, it would appear that such a tweak does not exist
There is a tweak for increasing the frequency of the 'make peace' quest, but I cannot find one for making war.

[Centurion1]

Hahahahaha Crazed rabbit is in the credits for Warband.

Touche CR, touche.

[Crazed Rabbit]

I am?

AWESOME.

CR

[Major Robert Dump]

Are there any mods that are the equivalent of the old End of Days LOTR mod where there are complex alliances and your heros can actually die?