'Featureless' Expansion

**Shambles** · 06-04-2005, 01:01

Originally Posted by Wishazu

i think people are just sick of reading the same thing everytime you make a post, youve had your say, and we all have probably got most of it memorized by now. maybe you should spend more time in the stw and mtw forums, as i think you`ll get less worked up in there.

I dont get worked up over this issue,
but it seems my points hit a nerve with you,
prehaps you are the one who should not come here and not I
as it is indeed you who is being worked up.

If your happy to throw your money away on unfinished products then so be it,

However i dont beleve you should be giving 1st time buyers the wrong impression about this game,
and the lack of suport for end users.
Neither Should you be allowing activision and ca the right to release un finished games without needing to patch them

I blame ca as they never released more than v102 when ea published STW and now sega are rumored to take over,

Now we all know EA are buying up almost every game there is,
So why are people throwing Total war around like a hot potato, if CA are so Great,
If they havent got the time to finish the game,
Then they should not release it,
Or they should have the decency to patch the game.

I cant blame the publishers as they have released many great games,
Ea have released many great games, So have activision.
And they patch them relitivly well
(not that most of there games usualy need a patch)
I guess ca need to work harder or something,
Becous if sega get the games then say they dont want them,
Who will?

**Wishazu** · 06-04-2005, 01:08

Thats a very mature response from you Shambles. Also, the only thing working me up is your terrible spelling and grammar. Say what you like about Rome mate, however please try and vary your responses to members posts as repeating yourself over and over again will not somehow magically make your opinion correct and everyone elses wrong.

**Shambles** · 06-04-2005, 01:11

Originally Posted by Wishazu

Thats a very mature response from you Shambles. Also, the only thing working me up is your terrible spelling and grammar.

Insults :)
I see your reasoning skills fail you my freind,

And what do you have to say about the fact that no 1 seems to want the total war games?

EDIT,
I see you have added more to your post,

And in responce i say,

You re-itterating the same things will now make you correct and every 1 els wrong?

You cannot be hypocritical about this my freind,
You are Doing the same as me only from the opposit side of the fence

**Wishazu** · 06-04-2005, 01:17

insults??? i cant see any. all i can see is a comment on your poor spelling etc. like i said, maybe you should return to the stw forums or wherever, instead of feeling the need to react to every opinion that is counter to your own. Anyways, ive made my point and i cant be bothered to spam this topic by replying to everything you say. Laterz.

**Shambles** · 06-04-2005, 01:18

Originally Posted by Wishazu

insults??? i cant see any. all i can see is a comment on your poor spelling etc. like i said, maybe you should return to the stw forums or wherever, instead of feeling the need to react to every opinion that is counter to your own. Anyways, ive made my point and i cant be bothered to spam this topic by replying to everything you say. Laterz.

And this is not a reaction?

Pardon me my freind But you seem to be getting terribly worked up over this issue and prehaps you should take a break

By the way ,
If you do have some thing constructive to say
Why dont you reply to my initial remark of Ea not wanting the game And now sega being rumorerd to take over from activision,
And the fact that CA are being tossed around like a proverbial hot potato,

of cours you could keep throwing verbal abuse my way In futher proof that you are indeed being worked up over this matter,
and there for your inital comment of Leaving this forum as you are getting worked up about it,
Is in deed best directed at your self,
(you made no point my freind You mearly wound your self up did not answer 1 question deviated from the matter at hand and tried underhanded insults)

But I would like some one to explain to my Why EA (a company buying up Almost ALL games Would not keep hold of the total war games)
And why now is activison also rumored to be giving way to sega,
also How can people blame activision for the short number of patches if STW receved the same amount and then Ca were publishing there game through EA

ShambleS

**Lord Preston** · 06-04-2005, 01:30

shambles. it is clear to me you have no idea how the game industry / computing world works.

you keep saying how programs are unfinished, they are not unfinished, quite often in large complex programs (such as i am sure R:TW engine is) it will not get fully tested until done by many people.

they also have a time period set to create these programs, usually there will assign some time to test and fix any issues but with new engines this might not be enough. Other games such as Raven Shield use existing engines (Unreal engine) which is used in many games so has been fixed.

technology in the computing world has a lifespan, if CA waited until the game engine was perfect and EVERYONE was happy with it, the technology could of been outdated, causing them too lose lots of money, risking the employees jobs and the future products they could make with the revenue.

Also it is common for programmers to leave the employment of a company, often they will leave for a better position at another company or will of completed a masters degree ect so will move on to that field.

So please, learn about the industry before you critise and "inform" them of the release from the company.

**Shambles** · 06-04-2005, 01:32

Originally Posted by Lord Preston

shambles. it is clear to me you have no idea how the game industry / computing world works.

you keep saying how programs are unfinished, they are not unfinished, quite often in large complex programs (such as i am sure R:TW engine is) it will not get fully tested until done by many people.

they also have a time period set to create these programs, usually there will assign some time to test and fix any issues but with new engines this might not be enough. Other games such as Raven Shield use existing engines (Unreal engine) which is used in many games so has been fixed.

technology in the computing world has a lifespan, if CA waited until the game engine was perfect and EVERYONE was happy with it, the technology could of been outdated, causing them too lose lots of money, risking the employees jobs and the future products they could make with the revenue.

Also it is common for programmers to leave the employment of a company, often they will leave for a better position at another company or will of completed a masters degree ect so will move on to that field.

So please, learn about the industry before you critise and "inform" them of the release from the company.

I see you make no mention of patches,
A concept That Most people who frequent the internet would be familiar with.

You release a game,
You find a problem
You release a patch,
You find a problem
you releas a patch
and you keep doing this
Untill finaly there are no problems,

This is true for hardware and software,
Some 1 must not have mentioned this to ca

And that is The problem that needs to be adressed

and before you blame it on activision,
I doubt that EA and activison have the exact same policy on patches,
Also,
could you address the point in the above topic Of how people are throwing ca back and forth like a hot potato.
with Sega being next in line to catch it,

I keep saying Rome has Massive potential,
But unfortunaltly ca Only care about revenu,
They dont care if the game works properly or not,
and refuse to release patches,
You cant seriosly blame Activision as i have never had this complaint with them in the past,

ShambleS

**Quietus** · 06-04-2005, 02:03

Originally Posted by Shambles

Ea not wanting the game And now sega being rumorerd to take over from activision,
And the fact that CA are being tossed around like a proverbial hot potato

Actually, CA switched to Activision from EA, not the other way around. Same way CA negotiated to be bought by SEGA.

**Shambles** · 06-04-2005, 02:05

Originally Posted by Quietus

Actually, CA switched to Activision from EA, not the other way around. Same way CA negotiated to be bought by SEGA.

Thank you very much,

I stand corrected,

ShambleS

**Spartiate** · 06-04-2005, 02:48

I'm not sure why guys............but i'm just dying for a hot potato with fresh butter and maybe some coleslaw...............yes..........coleslaw............mmm