what were the best EASTERN cavalry ever?
and who were best WESTERN?
who was better?
best cavalry?
what were the best EASTERN cavalry ever?
and who were best WESTERN?
who was better?
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Re: best cavalry?
All East and West, look for the Mongol horde!
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Re: best cavalry?
Best cavalry from late 17th century to 1709 the cavalry in Charles XI and Charles XII army. (in fact their entire army was the best of the period)
It is impossible to say for a fact what cavalry was the best ever since for instance mongol cav and Charles cav never faced eachother and faced diffrent opponents and had diffrent resoursces and diffrent weapons and so on and on.
I would guess Hetman wanna put polish cav as the best in some era also
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Re: best cavalry?
Steppe cavalry of any time period is the best out of it's peers, in my opinon. And all of the best Western cavalry were influenced heavily by the steppe nomads of it's time.
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Re: best cavalry?
Mongol cavalry, hands down. Just because of their wings, the Polish winged hussars finish a distant second.
And if I'm forced to choose a Western type of cavalry, I'd choose the Macedonian hetairoi. Best shock cavalry ever. Period.
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Re: best cavalry?
i think that if the mongol horse had not had such a string of good generals they would have never have had such victories(they would never have unified with out temujin,but they did).also geography limited them,as it does any cavalry though.power without control is nothing.(vietnam,part of india)
could be wrong though.lol.probly am.oh well drink up!
VAE VICTUS-PaNtOcRaToR
Honour is that which preserves the dignity of the human spirit.
It’s how you treat people, that makes you an honourable person.
Not how many battles you win.
The glory of your victories will soon be forgotten.
But the kindness and respect you show for others, will not.
So is there really any honour in Total War games?
No.
But there is in some of it’s players…
Re: best cavalry?
It's not just generals, or unity. All steppe horsemen were excellent, the Mongols fought the same way as countless of others had, their generals had nothing to do with that.
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If you should stand then who's to guide you?
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Re: best cavalry?
Well nowadays tank and helicopter units are often cavalry units; so I would bet they would be the best. But for traditional cavalry probably the Mongols, though knights were quite effective in their style of warfare.
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Re: best cavalry?
They had fine Generals indeed. The victories were, however, down to exceptional horsemanship. The magnitude of their achievements, in such a short time, is nothing short of astounding and must have required incredible discipline. This alone sets them worlds apart from any other mounted comparisoni think that if the mongol horse had not had such a string of good generals they would have never have had such victories(they would never have unified with out temujin,but they did).also geography limited them,as it does any cavalry though.power without control is nothing.(vietnam,part of india)
could be wrong though.lol.probly am.
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Re: best cavalry?
From the West, Teutonic Knights
From the East, Mongol cavalry and Byzantine Kataphraktoi(leave MTW)
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Re: best cavalry?
Polish Uhlans and Prussian/Saxon Curriassers, respectivly.
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Re: best cavalry?
I understand that the British Cavalry of the early 20th century was excellent as far as traditional cavalry went. They were, however, almost useless in the sort of warfare that they became involved in which is why the cavalry no longer used horses post WW1.
Re: best cavalry?
Well, if memory serves, they were quite effective in the total war of the Second Boer War.
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Re: best cavalry?
you must be the oldest person on these boards if you can remember that.
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