No Sea Trade in Memphis

**Armoryk** · 06-02-2005, 20:27

Anyone know how to fix this? I have installed the 1.2 patch, and as the Brutii have held Memphis for quite some years, enough to build a Dockyard upgrade, and the city has never had sea trade while I've held it. (Neither the little "boat traffic" graphics nor any sea based imports or exports on the detailed income screen).

I thought the port upgrade would fix the problem but there is still no sea trade in/out of the Memphis port, which sucks because I have now upgraded Thebes with a Dockyard, and Petra and the other port with at least a shipwright, and there are only 4 ports on the Red Sea in the first place, so Memphis is in a perpetual negative trade balance (big population with low trade means it supports a large share of my army with less than its share of trade).

**Quietus** · 06-02-2005, 21:20

Originally Posted by Armoryk

Anyone know how to fix this? I have installed the 1.2 patch, and as the Brutii have held Memphis for quite some years, enough to build a Dockyard upgrade, and the city has never had sea trade while I've held it. (Neither the little "boat traffic" graphics nor any sea based imports or exports on the detailed income screen).

I thought the port upgrade would fix the problem but there is still no sea trade in/out of the Memphis port, which sucks because I have now upgraded Thebes with a Dockyard, and Petra and the other port with at least a shipwright, and there are only 4 ports on the Red Sea in the first place, so Memphis is in a perpetual negative trade balance (big population with low trade means it supports a large share of my army with less than its share of trade).

Welcome to the .ORG Armoryk!

I've never had those cities before so I'm going to ask first:

1) Zero (0) denari sea trade?
2) Do have any land trade at all between those cities?
3) Any Rebels around?

**Nelson** · 06-02-2005, 21:42

Memphis may already be trading over land with eastern cities such as Petra.

**bubbanator** · 06-02-2005, 22:09

Originally Posted by Nelson

Memphis may already be trading over land with eastern cities such as Petra.

Never thought of that. If it is trading by land already, does that mean that it won't trade anything at all to that city by sea?

**Rapidly** · 06-02-2005, 22:32

Send a diplomat to specifically secure trading rights with another nearby maritime power, that might kick-start some sea trade between you.

**Cardinal** · 06-03-2005, 01:44

Memphis' port is connected to the Red Sea, if I am not mistaken. I assume you are at was with Egypt who probably own the other 2 ports bordering the Red Sea.... hence no sea trade route.

**Hambut_bulge** · 06-03-2005, 12:53

I've spotted this too. Playing as Scipii I've just fought a little war with the Egyptians to fix the Eastern border of my empire along the Nile valley. So I had three full stacks seize Alexandria, Memphis and Thebes, all in the same turn. Reeling from the shock the Egyptians eagerly accepted peace terms, including a trade agreement. As pointed out above there are four ports on the Red Sea. Thebes is happily trading with both the Egyptian owned ports (blue lines on the map), but not with Memphis. And the port at Memphis trades with no-one. Both Thebes and Memphis have highways and Curias built. Its very odd...

**Vanya** · 06-03-2005, 21:43

GAH!

Vanya sez...

Try this! Maybe it workie for youz!

1) Raze Memphis to the ground. Destroy all buildings. Give settlement to an arbitrary enemy pig-dog.
2) Attack, retake and repeat until the silly mud hole has only 400 peeps, or the minimum settlement size.
3) Give it away one more time, this time some some bastid youz at peace with.

Sit back and let them rebuild it. Before long, you'll see your pathetic little sailors sloshing their way through the red sea to pluck "pros" from the renovated boardwalks of the new city.

And make sure you pick a faction that can construct the Awesome Temple of Gah!ning to give the city away to, or you might find youself acting as piece-o-crap keeper before long...

GAH!

**magnum** · 06-03-2005, 22:55

Since you can't have sea trade with a provience that is adjacent to you, combined with the fact that the Memphis port is on the red sea, there's really only one port that it can trade with normally. Unfortunately I've heard others posting about even then that there appears to be no sea trade with that one port. My current campaign is the Seleucids and I own all that area so I can check it out and play around with it some tonight. May be able to get a better understanding of what is going on.

**Oaty** · 06-04-2005, 04:35

This is a bug in the works. Memphis cannot trade with Bostra by land and will not trade with them by sea. I'd have to say it has something to do with pathing and the Red sea is to narrow to allow the current engine to map out sea trade.

Also Thebes only gets trade income from a port. Although it can export to 2 differnt ports. With the dockyard/shipwright it will only export to 1 city. But this could also be that the export that Thebes has is also a good at one of te ciies. Only way to test if it would export to both is enslave thebes and see if it startts selling people to both cities

**katank** · 06-05-2005, 16:59

Red Sea trade is seriously bugged. I personally don't build ports nearly as early in Memphis and Thebes as elsewhere. Alexandria is by far the most profitable of the three Nile cities once built up.