Countdown to Open Beta - Swêbōz

[eadingas]

You've changed it again? I thought lightning ballistae were discarded as they were only reported in Scroll of Khaan, which is a known XIIIth c. forgery?

[SaFe]

You've changed it again? I thought lightning ballistae were discarded as they were only reported in Scroll of Khaan, which is a known XIIIth c. forgery?

Well, had to change it again - i found something in google about it.
Also in the Liber Germanicum it is written in stone.

[jerby]

well, if you foudn it on google, then it must be true. EB, you got yourself a new unit!

[Dux Corvanus]

As ever eadingas is totally wrong with the super-elite troops.
Thors Stormtroopers have no composite longbows - they have ballista that fires lighning bolts and also the warriors wearing super metal armour.

Mmmmm, Robocôz...

[GoreBag]

Mmmmm, Robocôz...

Good call! Two points for Dux Corvanus.

[Jebus]

Weren't the Suebi those with the little 'knot' on the side of their head?
Woudn't it be kinda fun if you implemented it here too?

Now, I know using a hairstyle as an ethnic marker is a bit of is a stretch, yet they were known for it. Perhaps a unit or two with that knot?

Source:

Germania, by Tacitus

'Now I come to speak of the Suebi. They do not form one people like the Chatti or the Tencteri do. It is more the name of the inhabitants of over half of Germania, and one has to distinguish them into a series of independant tribes with a seperate name. Yet in their totality, they are often referred to as 'Suebi'.
A distinguised feature of the Suebi is that they comb their hair to the side and tie it into a knot. Because of that the Suebi distinguish themselves from other Germani, and the free men distinguish themselves from the slaves. One could find the same hairstyle with other peoples too, perhaps because they feel kindred to the Suebi or because they simply, as is so often they case, like the hairstyle. But except for the Suebi, this hairstyle is rather rare and is only seen with young people. The Suebi, on the other hand, comb their hair back even on a high age and make the knot often directly on top of the skull. The nobles arrange the hair even more artly.'

Crappy webcam pic of a skull fond in a swamp in Sleeswijk-Holstein:

http://img244.echo.cx/img244/6347/a...ng0109jp.th.jpg

Oh, and please stop spamming us with these darn updates

^^^
This isn't fair you know. I come up with a good point, I back it up with a good source, and I'm not even dignified with a response!

*cries*

[jerby]

I already read something about teh suebian Knot somewhere. maybe in the Aeduii previeuw or some weekly news.
I tought it will be featured, maybe it is in the pictures, dunno for sure

BTW, your probably teh only person in here who quotes himself

[QwertyMIDX]

I'll make sure one of the Germanic guys sees it Jebus, they must have missed it, sorry.

[Jebus]

BTW, your probably teh only person in here who quotes himself

Well, it's for everyones benefit, you know. At least by quoting myself I can make sure that there is some wisdom on these boards...

And thanks for the to-attention-bringing, QwertyMIDX

[Dux Corvanus]

At least by quoting myself I can make sure that there is some wisdom on these boards...

Wisdom there is in every board, just faith you don't have for it to see, young padawan. Autoquoting a sure way to the dark side is...

[SaFe]

^^^
This isn't fair you know. I come up with a good point, I back it up with a good source, and I'm not even dignified with a response!

*cries*

About the suebian knot:
It will be in the game:
As we represent the sweboz(suebii) it should be in, or?
Three of the currently under work units will have this hairstyle.

But germanics were proud of their hairstyles, so you can expect several individual ones:-)

[Teutobod II]

it says here in the description "Their weapon, the frame, is a spear with a short sharp ending"

but in the pics they have long blades ?



by the way, the Germans (and northern barbarians) should be a head taller then the Romans and other southeners whos average height was about 150 cm then

[Steppe Merc]

It's a bit hard to show height difference, since all of the people of the unit have to be of the same height. And needless to say, while Germans may have been larger due to the larger amount of meat in their diet, not all were giants.
But the german guys and the unit guys can answer it better.

[The Wizard]

Besides that, Romans really weren't that small. Just overall smaller then the Celtic and Germanic peoples.



~Wiz

[Tux]

it says here in the description "Their weapon, the frame, is a spear with a short sharp ending"

but in the pics they have long blades ?



by the way, the Germans (and northern barbarians) should be a head taller then the Romans and other southeners whos average height was about 150 cm then

I don't know about that description problem, Safe knows to respond to that.
Were working in increasing the unit heights but not extremely as some germans were, and not all german units will have the same heights so the youths units will be smaller than the older.

[Teutobod II]

the average height of the Germans back then according to skelleton finds was about 172 cm while the Romans only measured 150 cm

I am asking because I saw LOTR screenshots with dwarves and hobbits - and they were smaller then men...

[SaFe]

@Teutobod.
My records says 176 cm average for germanics, but i can confirm we are currently working on height differences.
For romans i think your numbers are a bit too low. Their soldiers were the strongest and i think we can assume that they were above the height of the average roman citizen. I think 160 cm sounds more realistic.

[Teutobod II]

here I go again...

there are no Germanic wonders mentioned ?

the suncircle of Goseck maybe which is supposed to be the oldest found so far (nearly 7000 years)
http://www.kreisgraben.info/print.php?sid=13

or the Externsteine
http://www.sacredsites.com/europe/ge...ernsteine.html

[Teleklos Archelaou]

There are multiple germanic ones. Don't remember why we didn't include any there. Must have been either that they weren't ready or we didn't want to show them all or something. Don't worry though, they've got more than a couple.

[pezhetairoi]

Could we PLEASE have a pronunciation guide for the Sweboz names and accents please? I can't mouth these without getting the distinct sour sensation that I'm mangling them...

[caesar44]

the average height of the Germans back then according to skelleton finds was about 172 cm while the Romans only measured 150 cm

I am asking because I saw LOTR screenshots with dwarves and hobbits - and they were smaller then men...

150 cm ??? seems a little...small... do you have some links ?

[the_handsome_viking]

This faction looks like it will be quite interesting to play and fight against, I think I speak for everyone when I say this, however im going to whine about clothing once again.

what sources did you use when you were picking the clothing style for the Hábukōz-Swáiut ??? they seem to look a little bit...native american.

[SaFe]

This faction looks like it will be quite interesting to play and fight against, I think I speak for everyone when I say this, however im going to whine about clothing once again.

what sources did you use when you were picking the clothing style for the Hábukōz-Swáiut ??? they seem to look a little bit...native american.

Well, the tribal name they called themselves was Hábukōz, which means "Hawks".
Also the romans described the chaucii warriors, using bird feathers or signs.

[the_handsome_viking]

thankyou.

just for something to read however, what roman text said this?

[SaFe]

thankyou.

just for something to read however, what roman text said this?

Will have to take a look at my papers. Will come back to this afap.