Requesting beta team access

[Divinus Arma]

EB Team,

I have never installed a mod (other than the alt spart hoplite at the com, but that isn't really a mod)...

So I thought I would do it now. I was waiting for EB to come out, but I became impatient. I am sure you have seen my occasional postings in this forum, since last year.

Anyway, I was about to download RTR, because I need the change.

I figured I would ask (as johnny come lately) to join in on beta testing before I wasted my time with RTR.

Like I said, I know I am late, but here is what little I have to offer:

EB Project loyalty and commitment.
A solid business education (finish the BBA in Management this Nov, 4.0 GPA), with two years of specialized experience in asynchronous project development and team communication.
Personal addiction to PC gaming, especially the TW series.
I will provide clear, concise, and comprehensive reports on my playtesting activities.

I hope you will take the time to consider this, even though your beta roster is currently full. I would hate to download RTR with EB so close at hand.

I eagerly anticipate your reply.

Warmest Regards,

Divinus Arma

[Sheep]

I don't think you would be wasting your time with RTR. It's a solid mod and will be even better after 6.0 comes out. EB beta may be coming out soon and will be cool but many aspects will be unfinished as well. So maybe RTR will actually work better for you at that point (or even later, who knows?)

[Pycckuu]

I would download RTR. Its a great mod, and a very big improvement over the vanilla RTW.

[Sarcasm]

Download both.

[Divinus Arma]

How can I download both and still play both?

I went ahead and downloaded RTR, and it is quite different than Vanilla of course. But with all the changes (new opening song, new "provincial campaign", new loading screens, etc), how can I have access to both EB and RTR? Is there going to be an "on-off" switch?

Thanks

[Mongoose]

1: copy RTW vanilla 1.2 two times
2:istall RTR to the first
3:install EB to the second

[Divinus Arma]

Regarding RTR: did they make hoplites a nightmare, or what?

I would still rather play EB.

[Birka Viking]

I play RTR and i think it's the best mod for the moment. But when EB will relice its beta i will play that instead.

[Ranika]

Merging the mods is out of the question. Aside from any enmity, real or imagined, there are entire core concepts and plans that are totally different; it'd not be a matter of compromise so much as screwing one mod out of their plans for a region of the game. It's better as two, and gives the community a superior size of selection. That, in turn, allows a larger portion of the gamers to be pleased with their game, since they can have their mod of choice, and not some Frankenstein's monster we stitch together.

[Simetrical]

Right. My wish is only that they become sister projects, sharing ideas and research to a greater extent than they currently do. There's really no reason RTR and EB should research everything separately—it would be more efficient if we pooled our research, and then built our mods based on the same research but different concepts. (Of course, the exchange of research would be mostly one-way, but I hear you people need a dedicated but not necessarily professional Hellenic researcher—driddle would fit that role nicely.)

Anyway, even that's not going to happen anytime soon. Alas.

-Simetrical

[caesar44]

let rtr be a mod and eb be another

[Shigawire]

Now, why is it that I feel that this thread is 'threading' on thin ice?

[Sarcasm]

Abandon all hope...

I've trying to find out a DVD of that tv show......do you know if they have been released?

Now, why is it that I feel that this thread is 'threading' on thin ice?

Nah....it's all good.

[GeWee]

Right. My wish is only that they become sister projects, sharing ideas and research to a greater extent than they currently do. There's really no reason RTR and EB should research everything separately—it would be more efficient if we pooled our research, and then built our mods based on the same research but different concepts. (Of course, the exchange of research would be mostly one-way, but I hear you people need a dedicated but not necessarily professional Hellenic researcher—driddle would fit that role nicely.)

Anyway, even that's not going to happen anytime soon. Alas.

-Simetrical

Yes, I suppose cooperating is almost as good as merging.

I don't see why that won't happen anytime soon though.
Just tell the people with the egos to skip the whole "my mod is better than yours"-attitude and force them to work together! It would make the development of both mods progress faster and that's the only thing that matters.

[Ranika]

Well, there are problems like that, admittedly. It's not shared by everyone on either project, mind you, but even a handful would make even the most basic sharing relationship very complicated and difficult; possibly more difficult than it's worth.

[Mongoose]

RTR thinks that units should have names like "swords men" EB prefers "Dghhshshshshshsghsdhs"

They would never really work together...just download both to different folders

[bodidley]

True... but you don't have to like someone to successfully compare notes.

On the topic of RTR: I just downloaded it, and it's a world of improvement over Vanilla. If I'm not mistaken, EB won't be out for some time unless you are fortunate enough to be a beta tester, so to anyone considering RTR I'd say "do it"

[Region]

There's the open beta coming soon...

[Big_John]

well poop.

[Region]

Hey, I know what will make everyone cheerful. Another preview!

Right, Khelvan?

[khelvan]

Don't ask me, I'm not doing it anymore. Our new preview person should be saying hello sometime soon, though it is looking more and more like he's going to save his introductions for the next preview.

[econ21]

Don't ask me, I'm not doing it anymore.

Well, Khelvan, you did a great job while you were doing it - they were a real labour of love. Thanks!

More on topic, I just downloaded RTR. EB looks great and I may consider trying the beta. But I confess I prefer polished games and RTR seems pretty tried and tested. With it being my first mod, I was also pleased that it does not deviate too dramatically from vanilla (yes there are many differences, but sufficient similarities for me to feel comfortable). I rather like some of CA's game design decisions and am a little saddened when modders through away the baby with the bathwater (sheds a tear for the Senate in RTR 6.0...).

[Steppe Merc]

Simon, EB is also going to be quite polished when it's ready. Otherwise, we'd just release it right now.

However, I would urge everyone not in the lucky group of people like myself or closed beta testers to play RTR, or any of the other quality mods. (Almost) Any mod beat the vanilla game, from my experience.

And about the Rome thing, I happen to agree with RTR's desicion to do so. The senate was ahistorical, and a waste to all factions that aren't Rome. I understand that many people may like Rome (for some crazy reason ), but I believe that an overall game improvement would result from any mods desicion to do so.

Oh, and I know who the new previewer is!

[Aymar de Bois Mauri]

More on topic, I just downloaded RTR. EB looks great and I may consider trying the beta. But I confess I prefer polished games and RTR seems pretty tried and tested.

My, my, Simon Appleton! What do you think was one of the main reasons we have been at it since Jan 2004? We do not like to release unpolished products. That is why we haven't released any version yet.

[jerby]

Don't ask me, I'm not doing it anymore. Our new preview person should be saying hello sometime soon, though it is looking more and more like he's going to save his introductions for the next preview.

That makes me sad.
-either its because we drove you nuts (when I/we were just havign a laugh, not at the cost of you)
-or you're to busy to do it, and I'm sad for you that you dont have the time to work on you baby.

eitherway, good luck khelvan!

[Region]

Yeah, thanks khelvan for taking a lot of care to make those previews. I hope the next person will do the same.

[Big_John]

EB's all about the surprises huh?