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[hoom]

I play RTR now, I will continue to play RTR till EB comes out and then I expect to play both.
When they are out I plan on playing Sengoku Jidai, Chivalric, Punic & Americas Mods too :)

I initially considered RTR to be a useful stopgap during the wait till EB came out.

The extended development time (& extended extent) of EB combined with rapid improvements of RTR fairly quickly led me to the conclusion that by the time EB is actually out there will be little in terms of modding quality (art quality, scripting, improvements over RTW etc.) between the two.

Differences will be there in the details of art and aspects of gameplay.
Most obviously (at least in screenshots) there are differences in interpretation of generally pretty sparse historic evidence.
RTR may not have the same level of primary/academic evidence but in contrast to opinion in some circles its my opinion that there has been clear effort by RTR to differ from EB on a number of points even if just to be different.

RTR is 'damned if they do & damned if they don't' to a fair extent on the matter of historical evidence.
If EB produces good evidence of some point then and RTR goes 'oh, well in that case I guess we should do it that way too' they get 'look RTR copied EB again' however if they stick to their previous direction they will be accused of not sticking to Realism.

Similarities will be there because of limitations of the game engine and both mods being set in the same time period.

At the very least, while EB will doubtless be awesome, RTR has playable stuff out there now and its already vastly better than RTW, so go play it!

[Byzantine Mercenary]

I play RTR now, I will continue to play RTR till EB comes out and then I expect to play both.
When they are out I plan on playing Sengoku Jidai, Chivalric, Punic & Americas Mods too :)

where are these mods you are talking about?
they sound pretty good, all the other mods i have found bar RTR are not finished yet.

[Divinus Arma]

I have to admit... so far RTR is better than I expected. I think my days with Vanilla have come to an end. I enjoyed facing down pyro of epidermus right off the bat. It is, as one member put it, an effective "stopgap" until the release of EB or RTR 6.0.

I had a look at 6.0 via their website... not bad. I saw many similarities to EB, especially with the faction symbols.

Unfortunatley, I did not have the good sense to duplicate a vanilla before installing 4.6 or 5.4, or whatever it is.

I will probably playtest both to death and make a decision on which is better, er, more playable. Then I'll write a cheesy self-important review of both, as I am sure four million other people will do on every Rome site in existence.

On that note... "playable"... I kind of like the evil killer unrealistically deadly hoplites. For once, I felt a little angst going into battle after my first experence on 'emperor' against "Athenain hoplites" (which, according to records on the Peloponnesian War, were good but vastly inferior to Spartan Hoplites- and that makes me wonder how supercharged uber the Spartans are in 4.6, 5.6, whatever since I have yet to encounter them)

Well, yyyyyyyyyyaararafgfghhhhhhh. I still drool in anticipation of EB.


Regards,

DA

[jerby]

yeh, RTR is a good mod. best out there at the moment.
the difference between RTR and EB wont be in quality, but in ways of production. EB started gathering Info a long time ago and have one 'recently' started to mod. while RTR started modding from day one. so there will not be a quality issue (correct me if i'm wrong but i thought i saw one modder work for both mods)

I'v eplayed RTR from 4.0 to now. and i love it. altough my experience with hoplites was good. i play greek cities and on normal (wich is death-difficulty with 1.2) so that compensated everything.

[hoom]

where are these mods you are talking about?

None are out yet but here's links to their various forae:
Sengoku Jidai This is on the .org. I only noticed it recently & there's heaps of TW.org oldtimers hanging out there.
The rest are on TWC
Chivalry: Total War (ChivTW) -I believe there is a multiplayer/custom battle release of this but no SP campaign yet
Native America: Total War (NA-TW)
Punic: Total War (PTW)
There are a bunch of others that will probably be quite interesting over there at TWC.

There's a whole heap of really really good modding goin' on

[anonymous_joe]

Where's RTR available from?

Not that I'll need it til my exams are over.