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    Social decline? If you have a gang problem, that is certaintly bad, but I don't see how it would be as extreme as
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    anti-social behaviour prevails, where chief constables admit they have lost control of their cities, where feral children wander without restraint, where drug-taking and gun crime is rife, where family structures have broken down and authority has collapsed.

    I of course don't live in England, but I for one fail to see how drug taking is bad ( ), or how "yobs" destroy families...
    That's because it's not as bad as all that. The guy's just on his high horse and injecting a massive amount of hyperbole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big King Sanctaphrax
    That's because it's not as bad as all that. The guy's just on his high horse and injecting a massive amount of hyperbole.
    Be fair, he is a Mail reporter it is expected!
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    And of course things were soooo different back in the 50slink
    Maybe he wants to go back further to seek his past Utopia , how about the 30's , oh dear ...race riots , political riots , violent strikes. How about back to the Victorian age , poverty , disease , riots , gin houses , opium dens , rampant criminality .
    Just because a rag like the mail wants to cite an author who seems to believe that things used to be so wonderful doesn't mean its true . It has always been the same and will always be the same .
    That's it in a nutshell. There's a piece written by Charles Dickens where he goes into the St Giles rookery (ie criminal slum) in London. He goes with about 6 armed police, and he STILL finds it so remarkable that they get out without being seriously attacked that he makes a big thing of it in the article.

    As for gangs, Romeo and Juliet anyone? Obviously Elizabethan England thought fighting to the death in the street was perfectly normal.

    i do think it is true (though I don't have the figures to hand) that the period from about 1900 to about 1950 had unusually low levels of serious crime, but if you ask me we are more reverting to type now.

    Not that that is good.
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