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    It sounds really nice, Spongly ! For the moment I have only put 'standarts' for all faction. Thrashaholic have PM me for Briton units, so now with you we have Briton/Welsh, Saxon and Pictish specialists. Really good !
    We only need now an Irish specialist, but I have contacted one.

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    so hows the mod coming??
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    I have spoke with Ranika, member of EB and specialist of the Celts, he have wrotten really interesting posts on the dedicated Age of Vikings and Fanatics forum for the Gaels. He is very busy but he will try to help us, so the team is now :
    Team :
    - Agraes (Project Leader, Historical research & codding)
    - Ian (Historical research)
    - Spongly (Historical research - Saxon and Pictish specialist)
    - Thrashaholic (Historical research - Briton/Welsh specialist)
    - Ranika (Historical research - Irish specialist)

    I will edit faction, provinces and unit lists with some changes tomorow. This is the work we have do done in the following weeks :
    - Finish provinces discussions by adding others kingdoms and find all cities.
    - Discuss units, if you have you can post some pictures associated.

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    Scots should be called Dal Riadans, Scotland wouldn't exist for a very long time from the start of this period (and not even within this period); the Irish and Dal Riadans should share the same units for the most part. Dal Riada is seen just as a kind of tribe in this early period, only around 500 AD is it recognized as a seperate kingdom. I offer the same unit list for age of vikings and fanatics; they really changed very little in this period. The clothing worn by both; a long shirt to the knee (kilts didn't exist yet), a shoulder cloak (covers just the shoulders and upper chest), boots that come up over the ankle, a belt.

    For factions, I recommend; Dal Riada, the Ui Neill, and the Mumainha (if you have the space). The Mumainha also paint themselves with blue dye, so remember that in addition to the information above when doing their skins. An important thing to bear in mind; the Dal Riadans considered themselves Irish, not a seperate group, in this period. They used pretty much all the same traditions and soldiers, many of which (like slingers, berserkers, etc.) they dropped later on or used substantially less. Also, while almost all of these units have throwing spears, unless mentioned, they don't fight as skirmishers.

    Kernbannal ('Levy Troop'; unarmored club or spear militia with darts, fight as skirmishers) -
    Description - The hierarchy of Gaelic societies is a bit unusual; it lacks feudal nobles and the subsequent varying ranks of nobles and peasants. However, Kerns tend to fall near the bottom. Without much money or inherent fighting ability, they cannot afford good equipment, nor are they likely to be sponsored by an arras (aristocrat). However, that matters little. Most of the time, a kern is just a man called up to form a militia in times of strife, and fight with whatever is on hand; usually hunting spears or solid clubs, accompanied by light, small javelins, often called darts. Later, kerns would become the basic soldier of Irish armies, but in this period are only militia.

    Soikernbannal ('Levy Archer Troop'; only Gaelic archers they would have, levy archers with knives, hooded cloaks, hide in tall grass, but not really much good) -
    Description - Gaels rarely employ professional archers as soldiers, except mercenaries. They, personally, see little value in archers. However, when they do employ their own, they tend to be simple levies of hunters, who, while proficient with their bows, are not soldiers, and easily chased off of a battlefield if engaged not properly defended, or if engaged in a melee.

    Sleanaghta (Spearmen with heavy throwing spears, large round shield, leather helmet, and padded coat (Irish)/leather vest/coat (Dal Riadans)) -
    Description - The slea or gae (spear) is the preferred weapon of most Gaelic soldiers. Accompanied with heavy throwing spears and a solid Gaelic targe, these spearmen form the backbone of any Gaelic army. They are professional soldiers, who either bought their equipment, or were sponsored by a wealthier member of society. They are intended to hold positions, and are often placed around missile troops to defend them from cavalry and any other threats that might occur.

    Tuanaghta (Axemen with heavy throwing spears, large round shield, leather helmet, and padded coat (Irish)/leather coat (Dal Riadans)) -
    Description - The tua (axe) is one of the oldest and most favored weapons of the Gaels. The Gaelic axe has a particularly weighty head, meant to crush helmets and smash shields. With it, like most Gaels carry, are carried two heavy throwing spears, thrown into an enemy position before a charge. The Gaelic axemen act as a kind of bridge between medium and heavy infantry.

    Claiomhnaghta (Mid-length swordsmen with javelins, large round shield, leather helmet, padded coat (Irish), leather coat (Dal Riadans)) -
    Description - The claiomh, climh, or clom (sword) is an expensive weapon, but generally well made. Faster than an axe, and generally more wieldy than a spear, it allows the soldier using it to manuever into position for thrusts and slashes. The typical Gaelic sword is shorter than a longsword, but not a shortsword. It generally has a leaf-shaped blade, meant to offer wide, sheering cuts, and devestating thrusts that open wide, gaping wounds. It is accompanied with a heavy Gaelic targe, and three light throwing spears; these spears are favored for swordsmen, so to enhance the mobility of these soldiers, but keep them able to fight in the traditional Gaelic manner.

    Gaemornaghta (Spearmen with long, two-handed spears (not actually pikes though), maybe use phalanx, or schiltron, leather helmet, padded coat (Irish), leather coat (Dal Riadans)) -
    Description - The Gaemor or Gaemhor (great spear) is a lengthy spear generally used in two hands. It is used in a tight formation as an anti-cavalry and anti-infantry measure; it is difficult to manuever past a wall of spear heads. While in use for centuries, this type of soldier grew increasingly more common among the Gaels as the dark ages and middle ages drove on; a response to the growing importance of cavalrymen.

    Guirran (Horsemen with javelins, and an axe/spear in melee, large round shield, leather helmet, padded coat (Irish), leather coat (Scots)) -
    Description - Gaelic light cavalry sticks to the common methods of Gaelic combat. They are skirmishers by default, meant to ride toward an opponent, throw javelins, and retreat, ad infinitum. Training and experience has made them fairly good at this, and the Guirran (horsemen), later called hobblers or hobilars, became a staple of English and French armies as well.

    Amguirran Ridire (Gaelic heavy cavalry with axes/swords, and lance, large-ring chain armor, large round shield, iron conical helmet, should be a bit late period) -
    Description - Champions in Gaelic culture are afforded some of the best weapons and equipment. The Ridire are the Gaelic equivalent of 'knights'; they have a patron who provides them with equipment, training, and gifts for performing well. On horseback, they form the Amguirran (heavy horsemen); Gaels don't tend to use much heavy cavalry, but when they do, they form a powerful reserve on the field for mowing down enemy infantry.

    Ridire (Gaelic heavy infantry with axes, large-ring chain armor, large round shield, iron conical helmet, throwing spears) -
    Description - Champions in Gaelic culture are afforded some of the best weapons and equipment. The Ridire are the Gaelic equivalent of 'knights'; they have a patron who provides them with equipment, training, and gifts for performing well. On foot, they form heavy infantry soldiers, with throwing spears, like most other Gaelic infantry, to disrupt an enemy line before charging. When defending, they use a tight shieldwall, to absorb charges.

    Arras (Gaelic general unit, foot nobles with swords, scale armor, large round shield, iron conical helmet, javelins) -
    Description - Gaelic 'nobility' are drawn from numerous places; everyone from the lowest chief to the high king are considered Arras, as well as indepedent, wealthy merchants and traders. They can afford the best training, the best equipment, and the best soldiers to support them. Like other Gaels, they carry javelins to throw at their enemies before charging, and form a tight shieldwall-like formation to absorb an attack. They use long slashing and thrusting swords, which are fairly rare among Gaels. The heavy Gaelic targe, good quality scale armor, and a well-made iron helmet, provide them great protection against their enemies.

    Rastriagha (Berserkers, use a cudgel or hammer, round shield, probably wearing a crucifix (they were fanatics of different saint cults, and also generally trained soldiers), no armor) -
    Description - The Gaels have their own berserker tradition, stemming from pagan times, but adapted well into the Christian era. The Irish are generally very fervent people; the most fervent soldiers tend to belong to saint cults, such as the cult of St. Finbar. Their devotion to their people and the Church keeps them constantly training. Many even join monastaries and are actually monks or priests. In battle, they enter a kind of religious-inspired frenzy, and kill anyone they see as a threat to Ireland or Christianity.

    Inishnaghta (Irish islanders from the satellite islands of Ireland, with heavy cloaks, no armor, large round shield, bipenne axe (two blades), heavy throwing spears, leather helmet, painted skin regardless of faction, Ui Neill and Mumainh only; available in the western provinces of Ireland only) -
    Description - The islanders of Ireland live among the many sattelite islands. They fight with a version of the Gaelic axe, with two blades, and carry heavy throwing spears. They still paint their skin, and are some of the bravest soldiers in Ireland, though they wear no armor, but a helmet, and instead use a heavy cloak as defense.

    Maiobhanaghta (Gaelic slingers with knives and a small round shield, padded armor, leather helmet, better than their archers, and slings are substantially longer range than a normal bow) -
    Description - The sling is still a popular weapon among the Gaels. It is far longer range than a regular bow, and a sling bullet of clay or stone is surprisingly deadly. Slingers in use by the Gaelic often are used to harass an enemy from great distance. Further, they are professional soldiers, not levies like Gaelic archers.

    Caeisornaghta (Gaelic macemen, with a round-headed mace {not flanged, like medieval period mace} or modified work hammer, round shield, throwing spears, leather helmet, padded armor) -
    Description - The mace is an old, simple weapon. While popularized widely in Europe by the advent of plate armor, Gaels, the Irish particularly, have used the mace for centuries, with a smooth spherical or egg-shaped head, or a hammer head. They are another arm of Gaelic infantry, and fight like axe or spearmen, with heavy spears thrown before a charge. The mace is essentially a glorified club, but it is very effective against most types of armor and any shield.


    On Gaelic structures; the Gaels built stone-faced ring walls around their largest towns and cities, called cashels. The center of the settlement is generally the local chief, chieftan, or king's personal residence, or that of a powerful judge, businessman, or clergyman. This can be a manor, but the most extravagant were generally large stone towers. The Gaels built less permanent dirt paths, but also more permanent wood 'highways', and raised roads in swamps. Gaels built round structures mainly.

    Place names in Ireland; Meath is Midhe, capitol is Teamhaidh/Teamhair (Tara), Ulster is Ulaid, and is divided into three regions (Oirgaillia/Airgallia; East Gaels, capitol of Eahmain Macha, with Armagh in the south, actually the southern region of Ulster, Ulaidh, capitol of Raithmhor; takes up the eastern side of Ulster; Ui Neillia, the western side of Ulster, capitol of Cenell, depending on period), Leinster is Laigin, capitol of Dun Ailinne, Connacht is in two; Connaght (the northern 2/3rds; capitol of Cruachu) and Tuad (the southern 1/3rd, capitol of Killardan; eventually became Tuadmumu), Munster is in two; Desmumu (eastern half, capitol of Caiseal), and Eoghanaght (western half, capitol of Orliglin). Other potential regions (give the scale of the map); Inisharanna (capitol of Inishmhor), and a whole mileu of clan regions.

    Remember that Ireland and Britain are much more heavily forested in this period, and both are covered in rivers.
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    UPDATE

    FACTION LIST
    Playables
    BRITONS (Christian)
    - Domnonia
    - Rheged
    - Powys
    - Gwynedd
    - Gododdin
    - Strathclyde
    - Ebrauc
    - Elmet
    - Ynis Manaw & Galwyddel
    - Gwent & Glywysing
    - Dyfed

    IRISH (Christian)
    - Ui Neill
    - Mumainha
    - Dal Riada

    PICTS
    - Picts (Christians about this date and the conversion by St Ninnian)

    GERMANS
    - Saxons (Pagans)
    - Angles (Pagans)
    - Juts (Pagans)

    FRANKS
    - Franks (Christians during the reign of Clovis)

    So 20 factions for the moment. Hoping we will have enought slots !

    PROVINCES LIST
    * I need somes capitals as you see (but for the Britons it will be easy to find few ones, exemple capital of Lundein = Caer Lundein/Londinium)
    * If you want others provinces (I don't have put the provinces of Gaul yet, I will add them later), tell me.

    BRITAIN, Pictland :
    - Cat - Catichean
    - Abron - Abrondihanna
    - Fidach - Craig Phadrig?
    - Ce - Cechean (Keith)
    - Circind - Aberlemno?
    - Fotla - Restenneth
    - Fortiu - Dundurn?
    - Fibb - Abernethy
    - Domon - Foncehean
    - Aerdrognan (Orkney) - Aerdrognan

    BRITAIN, Dal Riada :
    - Cenell Baetain - Iona?
    - Cenell Loairn - Dun Maoth
    - Cenell Gabrain - Dunadd

    BRITAIN, Britons :
    - Strathclyde - Dun Breatann (Dumbarton)
    - Cumbria - ?
    - Galwyddel (Galloway) - Din Rheged (Dunragit, near Stranraer)
    - Manau - Ad Vallum
    - Gododdin - Trapain Law (near Heddington)
    - Din Eydin - Din Eidyn (Edinburgh)
    - Bryneich – Cathraeth (Catterick)
    - Caer Wenddoleu - Caer Wenddoleu
    - Ebrauc - Caer Ebrauc/Eboracum (York)
    - Dunoting (North Penines) - Dent?
    - The Peak (South Penines) - Din Pabo (invention)
    - North Rheged – Caer Ligualid (Carlisle)
    - South Rheged – Caer Legion/Deva (Chester)
    - Goddeu - Caer Goddeu (invention)
    - Elmet - Campoduno* (Leeds)
    - Gwynedd - Din Conwy (Deganwy)
    - Meiryonydd
    - Rhos - Din Arth
    - Ynis Manaw – Cashtal Rosien
    - Ynis Mon - Abberfraw
    - Domnonia - Caer Uisc/Isca (Exeter)
    - Durotrigia - Caer Durnac/Durnovaria (Dorchester)
    - Kernyw (for me only exist after the battle of Dyrham, 577 ) - Tintagel
    - Glastenning - Din Cad (South Cadbury Hill)
    - Ynis Weith - Din Weith (invention)
    - Baddan - Badd/Baddon/Badon/Aquae Sulis (Bath)
    - Gwinntguic – Caer Gwinntguic/Venta Belgarum (Winchester)
    - Celomion – Caer Celomion (Silchester)
    - Lundein - Caer Lundein/Londinium (London)
    - Ceri – Caer Ceri (Cirencester)
    - Gloui - Caer Gloui/Caer Glew/Glouvia (Gloucester)
    - Pengwern - Viroconium* (Wroxeter)
    - Gwent - Caer Went (Caerwent)
    - Ergyng - Caerleon-upon-Uisc/Caer Legionis (Caerleon)
    - Glywising - Caer Teif (Cardiff) or Dinas Powys
    - Dyfed/Demetia - Caer Myrddin (Carmarthen)
    - Brycheiniog - Caer Sws
    - Ceredigion - Din Ceredig (invention)
    - Builth - Caer Beris
    - Powys - Dinas Bran or Caer Meguaidd/Meifod or Caer Dolforwynn

    BRITAIN, Saxons :
    - Sussex - Andredesceaster (Pevensey)
    - Kent (Juts) - Canterbury
    - Tanet Island (Juts) - ?
    - Essex - Colchester

    BRITAIN, Angles :
    - Anglia - ?
    - Fens - Leicester
    - Lindsey - (Lincoln)
    - Bernicia - Lindisfarne
    - Deira - ?

    IRELAND, Dal Riada :
    - Dal Riatta - Dun Ranma (This is the name of the fortress on the coast according to the 'West' cycle, that was captured by the Ui Neill, and effectively expelled the Dal Riadan kingdom from Ireland (though the Dal Riadans still acted as if they were one of the kingdoms)) - Dal Riatta

    IRELAND, Ui Neill :
    - Ulaidh – Raithmor - Volunta
    - Oirulaidh - Eahmain Macha - Eoradha
    - Ui Neillia – Cenell Neill - Ui Neill
    - Oirgaillia – Ard Macha - Ui Daron
    - Mide - Teamhaidh - Ui Oir Neill ('East Niells'; the Ui Neill controlled Teamhaidh as defacto leaders at the time, hence their later claims to 'proper' title of high king, though eventually the east Niells split from the rest of the Ui Neill; also important to note, this is not a big place at the time, it was originally intended just for the families of those who worked in the temples/churches at the hills, so it hadn't really built up much yet)

    IRELAND, Mumainha :
    - Tuad - Killardan - Ui Broann
    - Desmumu - Caiseal - Ui Cormac
    - Urmumu - Orliglin - Ui Conchobar
    - Gabhonnaoi (Yes, this should be Mumainha, Conglach of Desmumu controlled the chiefs here as his vassals) - Mondonnan - Gabhona

    IRELAND, Rebels :
    - Goirmide - Dun Rann - Ui Conn
    - Oiriagh - Dun Riagh - Riaghan
    - Roirragh - Breganna - Braigan
    - Inisharanna - Inishmhor - Aranna
    - Laigin - Dun Ailinne - Laigini
    - Ard Mammo – Cruachu - Connaghta
    - Oigallion - Dun Badon - Badon
    - Amroi - Dun Amroi - Amroi
    - Sloaigha - Rethconn - Relliagh

    GAUL, Britons :
    - Kernow - Carahès
    - Poher - Castel Conomore
    - Domnonée - Alet
    - Bro-Erec - Aula Regia (Auray)
    - Darioritum - Darioritum (Vannes)

    UNIT LIST
    * Here we have to find others ideas, and to change generic names and standart unit 'heavy spearmen', an others, by more historical ones.
    * I also need ideas for regional units (like Domnonian cavalry or Llydaw Blackshields)
    * Check https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=86 for an updated list with descriptions.

    BRITONS UNITS :
    Cavalry :
    - Marchomawr (Heavy cavalry)
    - Marca Contwn (Contus cavalry, Sarmatian's inspired cavalry with long spear but no shield and heavy armor)
    - Marchogluoedd (Light cavalry)
    - Marca Dumonyna (Domnonian cavalry, need to control Domnonia)
    - Marca Llydaw, (Llydaw cavalry, need to control Brittany)
    - Teulu

    Infrantry :
    - Rherel (Heavy spearmen)
    - Gwaywffynabwre (Clan spearmen)
    - Bonheddwyr
    - Rhyfelwyrmawr ("Great Warriors")
    - Aeson Llydaw (Blackshields of Letavia, need to control Brittany)
    - Bêrfelawre Merionydd (Merionydd long spearmen)
    - Arwrweision
    - Aulue (town militia)
    - Galweddyl Aulue (Gaelic levies)
    - Cleddyfcludwra (Sword carriers)
    - Milwre
    - Campwyrau (Champions)
    - Rherel Manau (Heavy Manx Spearmen)
    - Galwyddel Ymyll
    - Rhyfelwyr Rheged
    - Aumabellu
    - Galwyddel nobles axemen*
    - Strathclyder Swordsmen*


    Bowmen and skirmishers :
    - Saethwre (Bowmen)
    - Rhyfelwyr
    - Ardue (Levies)
    - Fwnmilwre (Slinger)
    - Helwyr (Huntsmen) (like the Welsh Bandit of Viking Invasion)
    - Saethwre Powys
    - Ardu (Levies)
    - Fwnmilwre (Slingers)


    IRISH UNITS (lot is done with the great help of Ranika) :
    Cavalry :
    - Guirran
    - Amguirran Ridire
    - Carpata

    Infantry :
    - Kernbannal
    - Sleanaghta
    - Tuanaghta
    - Claiomhnaghta
    - Gaemornaghta
    - Ridire
    - Arras
    - Rastriagha
    - Inishnaghta
    - Caeisornaghta
    - Ruardi-Laecha (Ui Neill only, elite)
    - Audheran-Laecha (Dal Riada only, elite)
    - Corcanneitae (Mumainha only, elite)
    - Dinuadda-Claiomhnaghta

    Bowmen and skirmishers :
    - Soikernbannal
    - Maiobhanaghta

    PICTISH UNITS :
    Cavalry :
    - Marchan
    - Marchan Tho
    - Mormaers

    Infantry :
    - Ludodaoer
    - Schiltron
    - Chodaoer
    - Northern Warriors
    - Gairlom (spearmen)
    - Thomordaoer (Two handed axemen)
    - Aumue Boai
    - Gai Aurmahr ('Spear Masters')

    Bowmen and skirmishers :
    - Huntsmen
    - Youths
    - Cingalom (slingers)
    - Saiogdaoer (bowmen)

    WISIGOTHS UNITS :
    Mmm no real idea for the moment.

    FRANKS UNITS :
    Cavalry :
    - Mounted Antrustions (King’s Warband)
    - Gallic light cavalry

    Infantry :
    - Antrustions
    - Foederati
    - Frankish Warriors
    - Miles
    - Frankish champions

    Skirmishers :
    - Frankish Freemen
    - Frankish archers

    SAXONS/ANGLES UNITS :
    Cavalry :
    - Cnihtas ("Mounted Retainers")
    - Horswhealas

    Infrantry :
    - Gesithas ("Companions")
    - Heorthgeneats ("Hearth-Friends")
    - Duguth (Older Warriors)
    - Geoguth (Younger Warriors)
    - Ceorls ("Peasants")
    - Wulfbyrne ("Wolf-shirts")
    - Wræccan ("Wanderers")
    - Hall Teghn (general unit)*

    Skirmishers :
    - Geburs ("Serfs")

    Others :
    - War Hounds*

    MERCENARY/REBELS UNITS :
    - Frison Pirats*
    - Juts Warriors*
    - Wræccan (Anglo-Saxon)
    - Gasraidha (Irish)
    - Babuanna (Irish)
    - Horswealas

    I also quote there a PM of Thrashaholic with the description of some Britons units, he have done it in the past for a such mod on Viking Invasion.

    Cavalry

    Teulu-

    Literally meaning “family”, the Teulu were the professional noble bodyguards of individual princes and chieftains. Although cavalry are generally not best suited to the rough hilly and mountainous terrain of Britain, the Teulu often rode into battle. Being of the nobility, the Teulu could afford the best of military equipment and were very well armed by Celtic standards: they wore chain mail and helmets, and carried a shield and a lance, making them a pivotal force on the battlefield.

    Royal unit of 40 men
    Strong charge
    Very good Attack
    Good Morale
    Armoured

    (Should be pretty expensive)

    Infantry

    Merionydd long spear-men

    The spear was the weapon of choice in Wales, with those from the North being particularly skilled in its use. The men of the Merionydd area of Gwynedd were renowned throughout for their superb ability with the spear. The general consensus amongst the Welsh was: “the longer the spear the better”, and as such the men of Merionydd carried spears as long as pikes. As well as their pikes, they had small round shields and fought in Phalanx-like formations.

    60 man unit (best in deep formations etc.),
    fast,
    good defence
    weak attack,
    no armour
    only available in Gwynydd

    Ryfelwyr

    Constant in fighting between the petty kingdoms of post-Roman Britain and skirmishes with the English led to the Britons becoming accustomed to war, they became a “jack of all trades”, perfectly suited to irregular warfare. Carrying a powerful bow, that could pin a horseman’s leg to his horse, a large sword and a small round shield, the prominent tactics of the Britons were to ambush the enemy, pepper them with arrows and then charge in for the kill.

    60 man unit
    fast
    strong charge
    good attack
    no armour
    poor morale

    Bonheddwyr

    The Bonheddwyr were free nobles, the elite foot soldiers of a Chieftain’s armies. Before a battle these champions would often walk forward in front of their army insulting, taunting and challenging their opposition (much to the amusement of their fellows), and be accompanied by shouting and jeering from the lower ranking men, and the din of their war trumpets. The Bonheddwr were lightly armoured, and the individual carried a spear, a small round shield and several javelins into battle.

    40 man unit
    fast
    strong charge
    very good attack
    good defence
    armoured
    good morale

    Arwrweision

    Literally mean ‘brave men’, the Arwrweision are the veterans of numerous battles, they are the non-noble elite of a British Chieftain’s army. It was considered an honour amongst Britons to be drafted into military service, so all able-bodied men had a weapon and were up for a fight. Carrying similar equipment to their fellow peasants, swords, bows and shields, the defining characteristic of the Arwrweision is that, although they share their comrade’s eagerness for battle, they don’t share their eagerness to run away.

    60 man unit
    fast
    strong charge
    good attack
    no armour
    very good morale

    Helwyr (Huntsmen)-

    The Welsh people were keen huntsmen and used the hunt to practice the skills needed in battle. There are numerous Welsh stories and poems linked with their passion for hunting, most notably the tale of Prince Llewelyn and his greyhound Gellert. To be a good huntsman meant a men could command a powerful role in the royal courts and society in general, and could become very rich. The Helwyr equipped powerful bows, enabling them to kill the toughest of quarry, but very little close combat weaponry, thus should be kept out of melees.

    60 man unit
    Very Fast
    Very good missile attack/ very accurate
    Poor in close combat
    Skirmishers
    No armour
    Last edited by Agraes; 09-03-2005 at 10:20. Reason: Units update

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    sounds good to me!! is there any research you want me to do? provinces, military, buildings etc...?

    EDIT: I can also do concept art for units, but i need to figure out how to incorperate them onto my computer withou a scanner...
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    Ian, if you want you can :
    - found out the different capital cities for each province
    - search about architecture of the different factions
    - search about unit ideas for each faction (and change english names to celt/saxon names)

    You can do some concepts art, and take a photo of those to put it on your PC ! Anyway, Lucterios (who works with me on Gallia : Total War) may do some concept arts later, when he have finished with those of Gallia TW.

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    No Fianna units for the Irish factions. The Fianna were destroyed during Christianization. Some converted and became bodyguards of the kings, but others saw Christianity as a threat, and turned on the kingdoms (in essence, committed treason) and were destroyed in battle. If you want a special unit like that, maybe the Ruardi-Laecha (Red Warriors). They used longswords, round shields, javelins, wore chain armor, painted their faces with red dyes, and wore a red under-tunic, and fought as a type of elite warrior, on foot and on horseback, but were pretty rare.
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    Right

    FACTION LIST
    Playables
    BRITONS (Christian)
    - Domnonia
    - Rheged
    - Powys
    - Gwynedd
    - Gododdin
    - Strathclyde
    - Ebrauc
    - Elmet
    - Ynis Manaw & Galwyddel
    - Gwent & Glywysing
    - Dyfed

    IRISH (Christian)
    - Ui Neill
    - Mumainha
    - Dal Riada

    PICTS
    - Picts (Christians about this date and the conversion by St Ninnian)

    GERMANS
    - Saxons (Pagans)
    - Angles (Pagans)
    - Juts (Pagans)
    - Bretwalda (Pagan)
    - Franks (Christians during the reign of Clovis)

    As you can see i got rid off the Wisigoths, at the moment i need to have a Senate/three factions thing so i went with that...For cultures i think we should do this....

    Saxon (Roman)
    Angles (Julii)
    Saxons (Scipii)
    Jutes (Brutii)
    Bretwalda (Senate)

    Northern Briton (Greek)
    Rheged (Seleucid)
    Ebrauc (Macedon)
    Manau and Galwyddel (Greece)
    Elmet (Thrace)

    Frankish (Egyptian)
    Franks (Egypt)

    Southern British (Eastern)
    Dumnonia (Parthia)
    Gwynedd (Armenia)
    Powys (Pontus)

    Gaels and Picts (Barbarian)
    Ui Neill (British)
    Mumainha (Gauls)
    Dal Riada (Germania)
    Picts (Scythia)
    Strathclyde (dacia)

    Middle Britons and Brittany (Carthaginian)
    Gwent (Carthage)
    Dyfed (Numidia)
    Llydaw (Spain, need to find out how to change a factions culture)

    hopefully thats alright, what do you think?
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    Hi!
    First pics from the Camp Map are in....
    Not finished yet but heres the overall layout of the map...

    and here's Wales with my first go at making mountains

    Please let me know what you think....and give me tips as to what i should do.
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