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    Our researcher hasn't been here in a while. We were supposed to come to the saxons soon, but then I'll have to make these decisions myself.

    UNIQUE UNITS FOR SAXONS THAT'LL BE IN THE MOD FOR SURE:
    fyrdmen
    armored fyrdmen
    saxon huscarle axemen
    saxon knights
    saxon sergeants

    STANDARD UNITS THAT BOTH SAXONS AND OTHERS WILL USE AND THAT'LL BE IN THE MOD FOR SURE:
    javelinmen
    peasants
    town watch
    urban militia
    urban guard
    bowmen
    archers
    crossbowmen
    pavise crossbowmen
    feudal foot sergeants
    feudal foot knights
    ballista
    catapult
    trebuchet
    scout cavalry (fast cavalry with bad combat stats)
    feudal sergeants
    feudal knights
    royal knights

    So you've already skinned all saxon unique units except the saxon sergeants, a medium cavalry which will be weaker than the saxon knights. I don't know yet how much armor they should have but I guess they won't have that much.
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    Legio, could we drop the Peasant unit... I think they should be represented by the lowest class of spearmen. Atleast for the Saxons, the fyrd besides beeing garison in forts, they allso took care of public law and order.

    The only place i can find it reasonable with the peasant unit, is for rebels. But they wold probably chop down a tree, and make it pointy in the end if they were going to war.

    From what i have read, i have never heard of peasant units, other then bad equiped spearmen, or in peasant riots.

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    I agree, for instance "Iberian Tribesmen" (from RTR I think) was a great substitution for peasants. I think all factions should have a weak unit with very poor morale, but armed with spears. Don't like the name "peasants", but I have no better suggestion though.

    Skeletor: didn't Olav Den Hellige fight the "peasant-army"?

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    True, the army Olav fought were called "bondehæren" or "the peasant army". But by this, they didn't mean Olav's royal army figthing a bunch of men with heyforks. This was a battle betwen the king who wanted a kingdom, and chieftains who fougt for the old system with independent "Gårder" (Can't find a good english word for it, but it's kind of a huge farm with fields, woods, hunting-grounds aso). So the "bondehær" was a coalition of chieftains fielding their hird, and other unit's avalable (as they had allways been doing when going to war.)

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    I think there may have been a quite large amount of peasants in the army Olav faced, it is after said to be a peasant army, which is not an all that common thing in it self, and it's also said to have been quite big, 10000+ men, most likely an exaggeration but still. Seeing how Olav had been quite hardgoing when it came to introducing christianity, it's reasonable to think that the peasants would have been just as mad as the high ranking men whose power/lives Olav was after. As for pitchforks I would believe that most of the farms had enough weapons of some kind, so that they wouldn't haev to resort to using framing tools.

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    - Small synagogue (+10 happiness, requires town), Synagogue (+20 happiness, +1 morale, +5% law, requires large town), Large synagogue (+40 happiness, +2 morale, +10% law, requires city)
    - MORE HAPPINESS BUILDINGS NEEDED!
    Suggestion for Khazar happynes building, we could add the Khazar supreme court.

    "In the capital city, the Khazars established a supreme court composed of 7 members, and every major religion (Christianity, Islam, Judaism, and Savic paganism) eas represented on this judicial panel. the Kazars thus sponsed religous tolerance in a time when surrounding countries presecuted those who refused to follow the faith of the rulers."

    It might be called "Independent court" or something like that.

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    wow didn't know the Khazars or anybody would be that tolerant in that timeperiod..

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    Ok, that sounds like a good idea skeletor! I'll have a thorough look at all tech trees today and add improvements everywhere I can and see if any tech trees are so finished that the skinners can use them. I'll add the court when I do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeletor
    Legio, could we drop the Peasant unit... I think they should be represented by the lowest class of spearmen. Atleast for the Saxons, the fyrd besides beeing garison in forts, they allso took care of public law and order.

    The only place i can find it reasonable with the peasant unit, is for rebels. But they wold probably chop down a tree, and make it pointy in the end if they were going to war.

    From what i have read, i have never heard of peasant units, other then bad equiped spearmen, or in peasant riots.

    -Skel-
    Agree. Funny, I was just thinking about doing that. The last few hours I've been editing the French, Viking and Saxon tech trees. Peasants have been removed there and for Byzantines. The tech trees in blue above have been fixed but not yet looked at by our researcher. The tech trees in red (only one so far) is complete now. Ignore the list of units I posted above, use the first post in this thread for reference instead, I'll keep it updated.
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