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    Here is a great picture of a magyar kende surrounded by Fejedelem and his mounted retainers.

    http://www.kolumbus.fi/rauno.huikari...900luvulla.jpg

    A magyar noble of the Arpadian dynasty.

    http://www.kolumbus.fi/rauno.huikari.../jousimies.jpg

    A Magyar bow, far more powerful than the longbow at this time period I believe.
    http://www.atarn.org/magyar/Image27.gif

    This is a drawing based off a wall picture, it will help you understand how the Magyer infantry looked like.
    http://www.atarn.org/magyar/Image28.gif

    and here is a revised version of the Magyar millitary, far more historically
    acurate and I have put back the correct names.

    Infantry


    Kisebbik Magyar.
    A long knee lenght robe of red and yellow cloth under a thicker brown woolen garment that covered the chest, pointed leather cap rimmed with fur, a Magyar recurve bow, and either a spear, a sabre, or an axe.

    Kisebbik Kabar , a thigh lenght tunic of green wool, knee length brown leather boots, a Magyar recurve bow, a simple iron skull cap and leather strips wrapped round their arm from their fingers to their elbows.

    to second rung.

    Kisebbik Magyar ból a Fejedelem, these are the lesser men from a Fejedelem's (princes) Magyer/tribe, they wear thigh length leather boots, a thigh lenght tunic of red cloth under a hauberk of scale armour and an iron pointed helmet with chainmail covering the back of the neck, carry the Magyar sabre aka. Hunnicus Gladius, a Magyar recurve bow and a round wooden shield covered in leather.

    Lábfejek ból Székely fiú ból a Hunor, these are the Huns of the Alföld sons of Hunor brother of Magor father of the Magyars. These people are hard and rugged fighters, all that is left of the "Scourge of God". They wear a grey woollen thigh lenght tunic, and knee lenght leather boots, they wear on their torso a leather jerkin trimmed with Wolf fur and a leather pointed cap also trimmed with wolf fur. They carry the same bow as the Magyars and the same sword they also carry a small iron round shield.

    Kisebbik Avars ból a Alföld, these heavily armoured spearmen are a strange concept in a Magyar army, they are slow moving heavily armoured spearmen. They wear a chainmail longsleeved hauberk that reaches just below their knees, a pair of fur boots and gloves, a pointed iron/steel helmet with a nose gaurd and eyepeices with chain mail attached from ear to ear. As a weapon they carry a long one handed thrusting spear, and in the other hand they hold a wooden tringular shield rimmed with steel/iron.

    To Third Rung.

    Lábfejek Magyar, these are the ultimate when it comes to pure Magyar shock infantry. long sleeved Chain mail hauberk, leather boots and gloves, a large two handed Magyar sabre, a pointed steel helm with a leather neck guard from cheek to cheek and alarge round shield on their back.

    Kende's Avars. They were described by europeans as carrying "Halberds", they would wear a rich red and yellow cloth knee length tunic under a thigh length long sleeved mail hauberk, they wore knee lenght leather boots and "cut-off" gloves. Their helmet would have been the same as the Lábfejek Magyar but with a hoarse hair crest of red and yellow.

    Kende's Lábfejek, these men were born to fire a bow, their skill is unmatched, they are the elite of the Magyar infantry. They would wear a long sleeved knee length cloth tunic of Red and yellow trimmed with green, under an open sleevless jacket of red and yellowed dyed wool trimmed with white fure. Their leather boots were knee lenght and black as were their gloves, their trousers were of a fine green cloth. They carried the best and most powerful recurve bowsand a steel sabre, on their heads they wore pointed steel helmet from which hung a chainmail neck gaurd from ear to ear and atop it they had a red, yellow and green hoarse hair crest.

    Magyars ból Buda. These Magyar serve as the guards of the Royal city of Buda, they are formiddible fighters the elite among the seven Magyar tribes, the Huns, Avars and Khabars. They wield the long straight sword of the Franks, carry the Frankish kite shield and are armoured in exactly the same fashion as Frankish knights. Among them would be the Magyar priest the Táltos who would carry into battle the legendry banner of Árpád, The Turul.

    I hope this is ok, when do you think you will have the first moddels done?

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    I guess the "foriegn" troops could be region specific.

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    Thats amasing Bopa.. Thnx..

    Have you got any ideas on their banner.. It could be anything from a Leather in a wooden frame, to a solid metal object.. Eather way it wold be cool having it in another material than they usually are..

    I think it wold look cool with a skin if some kind, in a wooden frame, with wolf fur on the edge, and a print of the faction mark. Maybe some special metal objects on it too.

    Any thoughts..

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    Yeah, I have thought abaout it, the symbol is the Turul, which I suppose would be a patchwork of Greens, blues and whites, while outside it could be a rich red and and and imperial yellow kind of circuler swirl and angles design and then have white fur around it. You could give the inside a cloth and leather texture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar
    Yeah, I have thought abaout it, the symbol is the Turul, which I suppose would be a patchwork of Greens, blues and whites, while outside it could be a rich red and and and imperial yellow kind of circuler swirl and angles design and then have white fur around it. You could give the inside a cloth and leather texture.
    I'll see what i can do when i get to it. The turul, and the fur edges wil be really cool i guess. The ammount of colors must be a bit restricted to make it look good ingame.. Too many colors will make it look completely brown ingame, as the colorpixles blend, so i'll see what i can do.

    Allso, it wold be nice giving them a less imperialized look compared to the Byzantines ect. They were nomads moving from the eastern steppes due to overcrowding and tribal wars, so giving them a bit nomadic look wold be apropriate for the mod.(Atleast this is what National Geographic writes in their article on them, in the former issue.)


    I'll wait for the complete faction symbol to comes out, and make the banner in the same style. It wold be cool having fur edges on their factionsymbol too (hint, hint, Scion )

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    fur edges - good idea. damn I was thinking about waiting for your banner before completing mine... have sit quite some time with this icon now... but one magyar coming up.

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    A more general mercenary; of Gaelic origin, but worked a lot of places, from about 750 into the early Renaissance; in English 'The Green Harpers'. Could be present in much of western Europe, maybe eastern Europe even (they were generally criminals, who joined the 'Green Harpers' of Leinster, which worked over a pretty wide area). I know I put out a lot of Gaelic stuff, but, it's what I know.

    Uaincruitalthan; could use any Gaelic 'regular' model, but instead of a padded or leather coat, texture it to look like chain armor though. Maybe axemen of some kind.

    Just a thought, since getting mercenaries that aren't generic but work over a wide area may be difficult.
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