Tech trees

[Incongruous]

Just found out that Magyar archers didn't need hand protection so take away gloves from all primary archer units, but armoured units and heavy/medium cav should keep then

[Rodion Romanovich]

Ok, thanks Bopa, you've been of much help. Now that you've posted all info needed I'll look over the tech tree and soon remake it according to your research.

[Rodion Romanovich]

First attempt at Magyar unit lists and which buildings they'll be trained in:

SPEARS
1 - Kisebbik Magyar Spearmen - Light spearmen with recruve bows. Knee length robe, thicker wool covering chest, pointed fur-rimmed leather cap
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3 - Kisebbik Avars ból a Alföld - these heavily armoured spearmen are a strange concept in a Magyar army, they are slow moving heavily armoured spearmen. They wear a chainmail longsleeved hauberk that reaches just below their knees, a pair of fur boots and gloves, a pointed iron/steel helmet with a nose gaurd and eyepeices with chain mail attached from ear to ear. As a weapon they carry a long one handed thrusting spear, and in the other hand they hold a wooden tringular shield rimmed with steel/iron, expensive, multiple training turns.
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WEAPONSMITH
1 - Kisebbik Magyar Axemen - Light axemen with recruve bows. Knee length robe, thicker wool covering chest, pointed fur-rimmed leather cap, fairly cheap.
2 - Kisebbik Magyar ból a Fejedelem - Medium sabremen (hunnicus gladius) with recurve bow, round leather-covered wooden shield, scale armor hauberk, pointy iron helmet with chainmail down over back of neck.
3 - Lábfejek Magyar - Heavy shock two-handed long sabremen. Large round shield on the back, long chainmail hauberk, leather boots and gloves, ponty steel helmet with leather neck guard. About equivalent to huscarles in many ways, expensive.
4 - Magyars ból Buda - Heavy foot knights with frankish style equipment. Long straigth sword, kite shield, armored as frankish knights. Use the eagle banner function of R:TW engine to make them bring with them the Turul into battle, expensive, elite, multiple turns training.

BOWMAKER
1 - Kisebbik Kabar - Archers with magyar recruve bow and very light equipment (perhaps only dagger) for close combat. Thigh lenght green wool tunic, knee length brown leather boots, simple iron skull cap, leather strips wrapped around arm, from fingers to elbows.
2 - Lábfejek ból Székely fiú ból a Hunor - magyar recurve bow, sabre (hunnicus gladius) and small round iron shield. Grey wool thigh length tunic, knee length leather boots, leather jerkin with wolf fur on torso and leather pointed cap trimmed with wolf fur, small unit size.
3 - Kende's Lábfejek - elite archers, better quality recurve bows, steel sabre,
knee length cloth tunic, open sleeveless jacket, knee-length leather boots, leather gloves, pointy steel helmet with chainmail neck guard, expensive, elite.

CAVALRY
1 - Néptörzs Khabars - extremely fast, light horse archers with magyar recurve bow and sabre, horse with leather padding, almost unarmored means weak in front-to-front meleé, very cheap and easy to get.
2 - Néptörzs Magyar - light to medium horse archers with bow and sabre, leather cuirass, thigh-length leather boots, leather bands around hands for protection vs bow lacerations, horses leather and scale armor, cheap and easy to get. Will appear in great numbers on the battlefields.
2 - Nagy Székely - recurve bow and double headed axe with hooks on the tips, leather-covered steel-rimmed wooden shield. Black fur over mail armor, pointed steel wolf fur-rimmed helmet topped by horse hair plume - influenced by Rus, hun and magyar designs. Scale armored horses. These are among the magyar key troops with fairly low cost and good availability, and perform well early in the game but they'll be outmatched by the later western heavy cavalry. Better close combat than Néptörzs Magyar but slightly more expensive and slower moving. ZOR: approximately Pannonia area.
3 - Lovasság ból a Alföld - heavy lancers with sabre backup, round wooden leather-covered steel-rimmed shield, plate-mail, frankish helmet with nose guard, the rest including hand covered by chain mail. Horses armoured by scale and leather padding. Westernized unit without bow, expensive.
3 - Lovasság ból a Fejedelem - slightly lighter than Lovasság ból a Alföld and with bow and sabre instead. Very expensive. Served as princes and leader's guard among other things.
4 - Nemes ból a Palota - armed and armored like franks (lance and sword?), bring turul banner, very expensive, elite.


- Pata ból a Kende - General's bodyguard, plate and mail armor. Large magyar sabre, recurve bow and kite shield. Horses armored with chain-amil with white coat over. Officers unit should have plate mail armor and chainmail, steel frankish helmet with silver Turul crest on top. Horse with chain mail armor with white and black coat over.


I also need to find info on magyar pre-christian religion. Which gods did they worship during their pagan period?

[Incongruous]

Well they didn't really have gods, they worshipped, the sun, moon,sky and stars. I'll find the names by which the ancient Magyar called them and maybe you could just have somekind of shrine system.