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    I don't think lumping the Gaels in with the Normans is a good idea.

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    Probably not... Their culture is probably more similar to the vikings on the startdate.

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    If there's any culture the Gaels can be compared to in the period, it's definitely the vikings; one of the reasons vikings in Ireland integrated so well is largely because of large cultural similarities; foremost being warrior cultures; every culture had warrior castes, and could be argued as 'warrior cultures', but few were so prone to romanticize the warrior class. Further, they were similar in structure of their towns to an extent, and it's actually sometimes hard to say what the Gaelic-Irish/Scots adopted and what the Norse-Irish/Scots adopted, considering so much of what was already present in their cultures existed; a good example is the ridire on foot; Gaelic ridire existed for centuries before the vikings invaded, but are actually very similar to huskarls, or numerous types of weapons that had similar shapes and designs that had been prevalent for decades, if not centuries. That isn't to say they're culturally identical by any stretch; the differences are huge. However, certain aspects, including important philosophical aspects (such as the importance of the warrior class) are similar; more similar than they'd be to others.
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    About religious buildings:

    Instead of giving the Christian factions one religious building, why not 3 or 4?
    Although Christianity only has 1 God, the Churches were dedicated to saints and passages from the Bible (although mostly in the High medieval age, by my sources). Maybe something to consider? Like a Church to St.George, which gives Morale bonus, as he was a soldier in his 'mortal life'. Others could be a Church to the Virgin Mary which could give other bonuses.

    One thing I personally enjoy in R:TW is the different temples to choose from, and to decide what effects I want in this and that city.

    And about Muslim mosques. If you go for 5-level mosques here's an idea:
    Minaret -> Mosque (arabic Masjid) -> Large Mosque -> Alijama (or Grand Mosque) -> Legendary Alijama

    Muslims should have access to public baths as well as they became widely popular.

    If you want, I could write up religious buildings types, descriptions and bonuses for you!
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    Thats a great idea Krusader, the diffrent chappels and monasterys could be dedicated to diffrent saints. If your a frankish faction, building monasterys to St. John, or St. Stephen, you could sommun Knight Hospitallers..

    There are plenty of diffrent saints to choose from, and it gives the game a more religous aspect.

    You could allso do the same with the muslims, and their diffrent imams, like Ali aso.

    Same goes for the Norse, they could have "hovs" for diffrent gods giving diffrent abilitys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krusader
    Like a Church to St.George, which gives Morale bonus, as he was a soldier in his 'mortal life'.
    You mean "dragon slayer", right? In any case, that's a really good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    You mean "dragon slayer", right? In any case, that's a really good idea.
    He seems to have been a Roman soldier in the service of Emperor Diocletian who ordered Christianity persecuted. When he refused, and told the Emperor he was Christian himself, he was tortured and then executed.

    And he's also the dragon slayer, which secular historians say is a pre-Christian tale, which was adapted to Christianity.

    All this comes from my head, so I'll try to find some sources.
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    I know the Rus associated many Christian saints with their pagan gods. The Byzantines also had "military saints", sometimes painting their shields with a particular saint.

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