Campaign map

[Csatadi]

Yeah, thanks. Locals have always better maps.
We want to use native names as far as possible.
What would be the original of Prussia, Curonia, Semigalia?
I assume Prusi etc. are nation or tribe names.

[Herkus]

Yeah, thanks. Locals have always better maps.
We want to use native names as far as possible.
What would be the original of Prussia, Curonia, Semigalia?
I assume Prusi etc. are nation or tribe names.

At first say how many regions are you planning to include in Baltic land area. Then i will give you Regions of strongest tribes which would fit the best in that timeframe's map.

[Csatadi]

AOVAF planned provinces and settlements



Province - Settlement name

1 Aquitania - Augustoritum
2 Vasconia - Burdigala (Vascones)
3 Bertaèyn - Naoned (Bretons)
4 Neustria - Aureliani
5 Septimania - Narbona
6 Provincia - Massilia
7 Burgundia - Vesontio (Burgundians)
8 Francia - Lutetia
9 Flandria - Bryggia
10 Normandy - Rotomagus
11 Pagus Constantiensis - Baiocensis
12 Hispaniorum Marca - Barcino
13 Navarra - Pompaelo (Navarrese)
14 Castella - Burgorum
15 Legio - Ovietum
16 Gallecia - Campus Stellae
17 Tolosa - Tolosa
18 Batalyaws - Batalyaws
19 Tolahitolah - Tolahitolah
20 Sarakusta - Sarakusta
21 Balinsiyah - Balinsiyah
22 Mursiya - Mursiya
23 Gharnatah - Gharnatah
24 Qurtubah - Qurtubah
25 Ishbiliya - Ishbiliya
26 Novgorod - Novgorod (Vespes) must be some land for finno-ugrian tribes
27 Polotsk - Polotsk
28 Smolensk - Smolensk (Krivichs)
29 Kortdjak - Djir
30 Kiev - Kiev
31 Pereiaslav - Pereiaslav Khmelnytskyi
32 Mourom Ryazan - Ryazan (Mouroms)
33 Volhynia - Berestye (Dulebes)
34 Ruthenia Rubra - Halych
35 Livonia - Rafala (Livonians)
36 Thema Kalabrias – Messana
37 Lietuva - Daugmale (Lithuanians)
38 Prusa - Truso (Prussians)
39 Bomeranorum - Kołobrzeg (Pomeranians)
40 Beneventum - Beneventum
41 Chrobatia - Cracovia (White Croats ? Belochrobati ?)
42 Polania - Gniezno (Polans)
43 Frisia - Traiectum (Frisians)
44 Ripuaria - Aquisgranum
45 Mosella - Verodunum
46 Liguria - Genua
47 Tuscia - Pisa
48 Patrimonium Petrii - Roma (Romans)
49 Spoletum - Spoletum
50 Venetum - Venetia
51 Friulia - Aquileia
52 Hravatska - Zupanjac (Croats)
53 Travunja - Ragusa (Serbs)
54 Langobardia - Mediolanum (Lombards)
55 Alemannia - Constantia
56 Austrasia - Magantia
57 Saxonia - Brema (Saxons)
58 Transalbingia - Hamma Burg
59 Billung Marca - Lüneburg
60 Meissen – Albrechtsburg
61 Sicilia - Panormus
62 Bohemia - Praha
63 Bavaria - Salzburg
64 Morava - Morava (Moravians)
65 Silesia - Wratislavia (Slenzanies)
66 Carinthia - Meissen
67 Mide - An Dubh Linn
68 Taman - Tmutarakan
69 Levédia - Fekete Mogyeriek
70 Etelküzü - Fehér Mogyeriek
71 Pannonia - Blatnohrad (Karantanians)
72 Avar Plains - Avar Hring (Avars)
73 Laighin - Loch Garman
74 Transylvania - Belgrad
75 Raška – Beligrad
76 Ulaidh - Ard Mhacha
77 Thema Dyrrhákhion - Dyrrhákhion
78 Thema Strymonos - Nikópolis
79 Thema Peloponneson - Kόrinthos
80 Thema Helladikon Athênai
81 Dardania - Okhrida
82 Thema Makedonikon - Adrianoúpolis
83 Thema Thrakes - Kōnstantinoúpolis
84 Moisía – Nissa
85 Thema Longibardias - Barion
86 Thema Haemimont - Pliska
87 Dacia - Theodorapolis
88 Bosphorus - Karchaa (Crimean Goths)
89 Holsetaland - Haithabu
90 Snaeland - Reykjavik
91 Kernow - Isca Dumnoniorum (Should be Tintagel) (West Welsh ? Cornish ?)
92 West Seaxe - Winceastre
93 Eást-Seaxe - Lundenwic
94 Eást-Engle - Thetford (East Anglians)
95 Mierce - Snottingaham
96 Dyfed - Mynyw
97 Gwynedd - Deganwy (Should be Aberffraw)
98 Norþhymbre - Eoforwic
99 Srath Chluaidh - Dùn Breatainn
100 Lodainn - Dùn Èideann
101 Fortriu - Dùn Chailleann (Picts)
102 Dál Riata - Dunadd
103 Corsica - Bastia
104 Connachta - Tuaim
105 An Mhumhain - An Caisleán
106 Sardinia - Cagliari
107 Thema ta Klimata – Khersónēsos
108 Jutland (Iütland ?) - Viborg
109 Sjælland - Roskilde
110 Skåneland - Uppåkra
111 Thema Anatolikon - Ikónion
112 Svealand - Bierkø
113 Vestfold - Skiringssal
114 Agder - Flekkefjord
115 Rogaland - Stavanger
116 Hordaland - Bjorgvin
117 Sogn-More - Gulen
118 Trondheimen - Nidaros
119 Thema Armeniakon - Sinopē
120 Martyuba - Uchel
121 Mardan-Bellak - Bandja
122 Volga-Kama Bolğar - Bolğar (Volga-Bulgars)
123 Tamta - Ufa
124 Tubdjak - Kargaly
125 Chorasmia - Urgench (Khwalis)
126 Saksin - Atil
127 Saklan - Sarkel
128 Aran - Darband
129 Georgia - Tpili
130 Thema Khaldias - Trapesdoúnta
131 Thema Bukellarion - Herakleia
132 Thema Optimaton - Níkomedia
133 Thema Opsikion - Níkaia
134 Thema Kibyrraioton - Seleukeia
135 Thema Kappadokía - Aurea
136 Thema Koloneias - Sebasteia
137 Avasim - Halab
138 al-Jazira - Harran
139 Armenia - Ani
140 al-Mawsil - al-Mawsil
141 Azerbaijan - Tabriz
142 Djebel - Hagmatana
143 Djilan - Alamut
144 Khuzistan - Shushan
145 al-Iraqiyah - Baghdad
146 al-Bahrain - Hajar (Baharnah)
147 Arabia - al-Djawn
148 Ascham - Dimashq
149 Judea - al-Quds-as-Sarif
150 al-Hijāz - Tabuk
151 Mīsr - al-Iskandariyyah
152 Barka – Barka
153 Gotland - Paviken
154 Tarābulus - Tarābulus
155 Ifriqiyah al-Qayrawan (Aghlabids)
156 al-Maġrib al-Arabī - Fās (Idrisids)
157 Cyprus not a valid province yet
158 Crete not a valid province yet

May contain mistakes of course. Post your comments here.

Need research with the provinces (create a Map Resources thread if you have some info for us):
Province names
Settlement names
Rebels' name
Religion Percentage Christian-Muslim-Pagan
Resources
Starting Buildings
Special Buildings
Mercenaries available
Any important thing e.g. historical personages even if rebels, local units etc.

[Germanicus91]

Map looks great :-) I think you should use period city and province names though, where possible. Winchester should be Winceastre. Eboracum (Roman name) should be Jorvik. Mercia would be Mierce or Myrce. East Anglia would be Eást-Engle, Essex would be Eást-Seaxe. Northhumbria would be Norþ-hymbre. I have books on English, Scandinavian, German and Dutch place names, so I can help with these.

[Csatadi]

Thanks Germanicus!
I will edit the names you sent and Im waiting for the more appropriate other ones.

[Germanicus91]

I'll look into the others, might take me a few days. Some care has to be taken with the English place-names, since with the Domesday Book in 1086 some may have a different spelling to how the Saxons or Norsemen spelt them. Whether you can make a script for that (or whether it is even worth it for 13 years I don't know). But for historical accuracy it is the correct thing to do. Cheers!

[Csatadi]

Some care has to be taken with the English place-names, since with the Domesday Book in 1086 some may have a different spelling to how the Saxons or Norsemen spelt them. Whether you can make a script for that (or whether it is even worth it for 13 years I don't know). But for historical accuracy it is the correct thing to do. Cheers!

Only one place name is allowed. You can manually change some settlement names in BI if you want.
We need only Saxon names.

[Csatadi]

At first say how many regions are you planning to include in Baltic land area. Then i will give you Regions of strongest tribes which would fit the best in that timeframe's map.

Two provinces are planned 38 and 37.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Two provinces are planned 38 and 37.

I think we should have more provinces in the Baltic area, plus the current map was a conversion of another map which means I just filled in with the same color out to the coast without really bothering about making the province borders correct (because at the time the main concern was to get the map running). I think maybe 5 provinces would be good for covering Finland and the baltic area we haven't yet covered, not including Prussia, which I think is almost correctly placed at the moment. For these 5, Livonia, Revala and Lithuania seem necessary, but I don't know enough about the others. hink Suggestions from an expert would be good...

[Herkus]

Two provinces are planned 38 and 37.

OK i will give you the names in orginal languages for these regions
Prussia ->Prusa settlement (Truso)
Lithuania ->Lietuva settlement (Kernave) though the province drawing for Lithuanian is wrong in your map. It didnt expand so far in Russian land east, but rather it streched more to the south.

I would advice you to add one more province in Baltics ->
Curonia ->Kursa settlement (Jurpils)
Curonia covered all western part of modern Latvia and Lithuania. This was also the tribe which could be described as local Baltic vikings cuz they also used to raid neighbouring Baltic sea lands.

This map is for 12th century but can be also used for previous . The map's language is Lithuanian. In this map Curonia is showed in violet color in western part. In 11th century it had more lands to the south. If you add Curonia, than Lithuania should not have sea border and Curonia should border with Prussia. Though if you add Lithuania as large central Baltic land, then i guess you can make a sea border only in the south part of Riga's gulf.

[Csatadi]

Thanks. Edited. However my research showed Kernavė is first mentioned only in the 13th century so I choosed Daugmale from your map. I dont see the map from your latest post.
Borders will change later Im sure Legio will use your map to this process.
3rd province? Maybe. Depends on the size of Lietuva.

We would be happy about some details to the regions you know well.