Genghis Khan

**Shadow** · 06-04-2005, 13:39

Do you guys have any good books (not boring or confusing) or websites on Genghis Khan and the Mongol that can recommend ?

**Krusader** · 06-04-2005, 14:10

Genghis Khan site with many good links

**Basiliscus** · 06-05-2005, 13:38

This link is more to do with the Mongols after Genghis, and mainly focuses on the European theatre.

http://historymedren.about.com/libra...olinvasion.htm

**Orda Khan** · 06-05-2005, 16:58

The Mongols.........David Morgan
The Mongol Empire......Peter Brent

The above books will provide a fair amount of information about Chingis Khan without being too complicated.
The Secret History of the Mongols may be not what you are looking for.

Good luck with your research

.......Orda

**Shadow** · 06-06-2005, 02:41

Thanks guys for all the help

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

The Mongols.........David Morgan
The Mongol Empire......Peter Brent

.......Orda

But I can't seem to find the above books at the local bookstore so I bought another book, Genghis Khan & the making of the Modern World by Jack WeatherFord.

**Zalmoxis** · 06-06-2005, 05:13

Hey, what did the Mongols do to normal populations that they conquered, and the ones that fought back? A larger explanation would be good.

**Krusader** · 06-06-2005, 14:23

Originally Posted by Zalmoxis

Hey, what did the Mongols do to normal populations that they conquered, and the ones that fought back? A larger explanation would be good.

Those that fought back were slain, to every man,woman,child and pet. Try to look up the siege of Herat, which rebelled.

Normally they attacked one or several villages/towns and massacred every living being. If the nearby towns and cities surrendered they were left in peace.

The different non-Muslim populations in the Khwarazmiam Persian empire had been persecuted as I recall, and the Mongols used this to their advantage, so the the non-Muslims welcomed them as liberators instead.
Check Wikipedia...and maybe the PDF Manual that came with Mongol Invasion if u got that one.

**Orda Khan** · 06-06-2005, 21:45

The Mongols by David Morgan should be readily available, it is published by Blackwell and is part of the Peoples of Europe series.
Amazon hold some good titles, it depends how 'deep' you want to go. I usually find it's the subsequent events, after Chingis, that the information becomes mixed up. For instance, many sources include Qaidu as a commander during the Russian Invasion, which is untrue since he was less than 10 at the time, however there are manysources of information and a study of as many as possible will provide a clearer picture. There is much to suggest that the Empire, after Ogodei was barely manageable, far more emphasis should be placed on the internicine disputes within its ruling houses than to any event such as Ain Jalut as greatly significant. Within 2 generations the work of Chingis was being undone from within.

The Mongol approach towards conquered peoples was one of tolerance. They showed no preference ( at first ) to any religion. This changed later when The Golden Horde or at least its Khan became Moslem. The cities that held out against them were usually punished severely and likewise those that did not were spared and therefore psychological warfare was a very frightening prospect indeed.
During the conquest of Khwarazm, people tend to concentrate on the bloody genocide that Chingis and his son Tolui perpetrated on the area but overlook the fact that the Mongol armies were already overstretched as they were still campaigning in China. Any likely revolt or resistance had to be crushed convincingly to maintain safety to the borders of the new Empire.
As Subedei advised Chingis Khan, the Khwarazmians had to be conquered completely

........Orda

**Steppe Merc** · 06-06-2005, 21:56

Orda, I thought the Il-Khans were the Muslims? Or was the Golden (or, in some books I've read refer to them, Kipchaq) Horde also Muslim?

**Orda Khan** · 06-06-2005, 22:40

Originally Posted by Steppe Merc

Orda, I thought the Il-Khans were the Muslims? Or was the Golden (or, in some books I've read refer to them, Kipchaq) Horde also Muslim?

The IlKhans did indeed become Moslem, in the 1280's, Teguder declared conversion to Islam but it was in 1295 that Ghazan officially confirmed the IlKhanate as a Moslem state. Until this time they generally favoured Buddhism.
On the other hand, when Berke came to power in the Golden Horde he became Moslem also and wars broke out between these Khanates in 1261. The adoption of Islam, the religion of many of the conquered peoples was a further nail in the coffin for the Mongol Empire

.....Orda

**Oaty** · 06-07-2005, 01:40

Normally they attacked one or several villages/towns and massacred every living being. If the nearby towns and cities surrendered they were left in peace.

But under normal circumstances they had to agree to have there city walls torn down.

**Shadow** · 06-07-2005, 16:13

Originally Posted by Orda Khan

The Mongols by David Morgan should be readily available, it is published by Blackwell and is part of the Peoples of Europe series.
Amazon hold some good titles

I can't seem to find it at the local MPH bookstore maybe I will try the others around.

I really wish to buy from Amazon but I don't have a credit card