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    Default John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    Is this for real?

    If he is serious then what's point? Cheney steps in if Bush leaves.



    John Kerry to call for impeachment of George Bush
    6/4/2005

    John Kerry announced Thursday that he intends to present Congress with The Downing Street Memo, reported last month by the London Times. The memo purports to include minutes from a July 2002 meeting with Tony Blair, in which Blair allegedly said that President Bush's administration "fixed" intelligence on Iraq in order to justify the Iraqi war.

    The Downing Street Memo is the leaked secret British document that details the minutes of a 2002 meeting between top-level British and American government officials. The memo states that George Bush "was determined" to attack Iraq long before going to Congress with the matter, and that "the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."

    So far neither government has disputed the accuracy of the memo.

    The memo caused an uproar in Britain and made a significant impact in the British national elections, but has recieved little attention in American news.

    The Boston Globe published an article by Ralph Nader, Tuesday, in which Nader also called for President Bush's impeachment. The story is being carried on Michael Moore's website and the Democratic Underground.

    Failed presidential candidate Kerry advised that he will begin the presentation of his case for President Bush's impeachment to Congress, on Monday.

    Kerry said of the memo: "When I go back [to Washington] on Monday, I am going to raise the issue. I think it's a stunning, unbelievably simple and understandable statement of the truth and a profoundly important document that raises stunning issues here at home. And it's amazing to me the way it escaped major media discussion. It's not being missed on the Internet, I can tell you that."

    He questioned Americans' understanding of the war and the idea that criticism equals disloyalty, saying, "Do you think that Americans if they really understood it would feel that way knowing that on Election Day, 77 percent of Americans who voted for Bush believed that weapons of mass destruction had been found and 77 percent believe Saddam did 9/11? Is there a way for this to break through, ever?"

    House Representative John Conyers has written to the President regarding the memo:

    "...a debate has raged in the United States over the last year and one half about whether the obviously flawed intelligence that falsely stated that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction was a mere 'failure' or the result of intentional manipulation to reach foreordained conclusions supporting the case for war. The memo appears to close the case on that issue stating that in the United States the intelligence and facts were being 'fixed' around the decision to go to war."

    There is a growing movement on the internet and in Congress for a "Resolution of Inquiry" into issues surrounding the planning and execution of the Iraq war, especially in regard to the Administration's handling of intelligence.

    John Dean, a key Watergate figure, wrote in a June 2003 column for a legal website, that, "To put it bluntly, if Bush has taken Congress and the nation into war based on bogus information, he is cooked... Manipulation or deliberate misuse of national security intelligence data, if proven, could be a 'high crime' under the Constitution's impeachment clause."

    However, in practical terms impeachment in the U.S. Senate requires a 2/3 majority for conviction, which is unlikely given that 55 out of 100 Senators are Republican.

    When asked about the Downing Street Memo on May 23, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said: "If anyone wants to know how the intelligence was used by the administration, all they have to do is go back and look at all the public comments over the course of the lead-up to the war in Iraq, and that's all very public information. Everybody who was there could see how we used that intelligence.

    "And in terms of the intelligence, it was wrong, and we are taking steps to correct that and make sure that in the future we have the best possible intelligence, because it's critical in this post-September 11th age, that the executive branch has the best intelligence possible."

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    Default Re: John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    Funny...our own AdrianII brought this subject up May 18th in this forum:
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47875

    What changed in 3 weeks?
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    Default Re: John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    hehe

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    Wink Re: John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    don´t see why not........there were people that wanted to impeach clinton because he lied about getting a bj....

    i think lying with every teeth in your mouth about a freaking war is worse...
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    The big difference is Ken Starr had the majority party backing his actions (and no, I didn't support the Republicans doing it either). Congress has to call for a special prosecutor to launch an investegation, and Mr. Flip Flop aside, I don't see much groundswell from the Democrats, let alone the Republicans. Kerry's doing this to grandstand. Sadly, as much as he promised he wouldn't, lately he's resorted to the 'stolen election', 'disenfranchised voters', 'we didn't lose' hate rhetoric. I guess an ego that big must be soothed somehow.
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    Default Re: John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    It seems a bit like Kerry looking like a sore loser... you'd think they try and get a Democrat with a bit more credibilty in the eyes of the people... like one that didn't lose to a moron...

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    Default Re: John Kerry to call for Impeachment of Bush

    Man, the dems are becoming the party of clowns. Just look at their DNC chariman: Howard "YEEEAAAAAHHHHIIII!" Dean.

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    Yeah. Howard Dean got elected Chair of the DNC with statements like "We need to present ideas and stop attacking the Republicans as our sole source for garnering votes."

    Yet, last week, in explaining why Election Day needs to be a holiday, he had this to say: "It's not fair. Our people have to work 8, 10 hours a day and then come home and get in line. I don't know of any Republicans that have ever done an honest day's hard work in their lives".

    Yeah, that'll secure the crossover vote.
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