Input requested - faction naming

**Shrapnel** · 06-07-2005, 15:44

I would go for the way that they call themselves as people, it would be like saying 'I'm going to play as Spain' or 'I'm, going to play as the Spanish'.

**bodidley** · 06-07-2005, 16:42

In some cases the name of the people is preferable because it is easier to say. In other cases, the political body controls far more than one people. In the cases of the Seleukid Empire and the Roman Empire, the subjects and citizens were not all one people. In the case of federations or confederations of tribes, one wouldn't want to imply that all of the people were from one tribe.

**Big_John** · 06-07-2005, 17:09

i voted political unit, simply because when i play this type of game, i tend to see myself as playing the empire, not the people, per se. e.g., i like ponnim and tsorim, but safot softim biqarthadast sounds more important or.. epic or something.. to me. regardless, either convention is a vast improvement to the immersion, so it's not that big a deal to me.

**khelvan** · 06-07-2005, 18:41

There are many different instances where this applies - in general we'll be adjusting the display text as need be. That is, all the text about "Tsorim city" or "you have defeated a Tsorim army," that sort of thing. However, I am specifically referring to the name of the faction which displays when you click on the faction icon, which shows up at the top of the screen when it is that faction's turn, and in the diplomacy screen.

**Sarcasm** · 06-07-2005, 19:05

Then change my vote to the opposite. Plz.

**Spendios** · 06-07-2005, 19:37

I voted for the political unit for the same reason as Temple :when you conquer a nation you don't kill all the people. You vanquish their political power, and subsume them.

**Quietus** · 06-07-2005, 19:46

IMO, hence my vote, Political since People's name is too specific. In the ancient world, I don't the borders are well defined as well as people's affiliation.

(However on very popular factions like Carthage. I'd rather have plain Carthage because it is an instantly identifiable terms today.)

**khelvan** · 06-07-2005, 22:10

Originally Posted by Sarcasm

Then change my vote to the opposite. Plz.

Done.

**Sheep** · 06-07-2005, 23:20

Originally Posted by khelvan

However, I am specifically referring to the name of the faction which displays when you click on the faction icon, which shows up at the top of the screen when it is that faction's turn, and in the diplomacy screen.

In that case, DEFINITELY use the political unit.

**Steppe Merc** · 06-08-2005, 00:29

Just to play devils advocate, it isn't always the government that would be best. For example, the Sarmatians weren't the "Group of Tribes that are Sarmatians" you know? Sometimes it was a distinct ethnic group that they were known as. Mongols weren't the "Empire of Chingiss Khan", they were Mongols. The people that they absorbed became know as Mongols as well, even though they were say Turks or Kipchaqs or whatever.

Personally, I believe that it should be a mix, where applicable. The Empire of Selukids as opposed to the Aeudi.

**QwertyMIDX** · 06-08-2005, 00:31

The Aedui would be more approiatly called the Aedui Condederation than the Aedui. I do agree that is a question that should be handled on a faction-by-faction basis rather than according to some ironclad rule.