Don't mess with the US state department!

**Don Corleone** · 06-07-2005, 11:45

The police officer told her three times to get off the phone and exit the vehicle. She refused, and in fact, told her friend to come down to the traffic stop location. Calling for reinforcements could be viewed as threatening behavior.

Besides, the cops have to get tased themselves, several times, during training so they know how much it hurts. If you ask me, the driver was lawsuit shopping. What she didn't know was the whole thing was captured on tape, showing how she repeatedly refused to follow police instructions.

**BDC** · 06-07-2005, 17:04

Wow, that's harsh. Why didn't they just pull her out and sit on her?

EDIT: Although to be fair, anyone who doesn't just get out when someone points a tasar at them probably deserves to be shot for being terminally stupid.

**Ldvs** · 06-07-2005, 17:23

She truly deserves what she's got. When a policeman demands something you do it, even though he's harsh or rude (the policeman behaved properly in that case). Moreover, I've never got tased but I doubt it makes you scream to death as though you're thrown into fire, does it?

**Don Corleone** · 06-07-2005, 18:00

Speaking from experience, it friggen hurts, but not that bad. There's no current behind it, it's a static discharge. So, it's like the zap you get on a doorknob on a cold winter's morning, but more intense. It's gone almost as soon as you feel it.

And BDC, she wasn't stupid. She was intentionally provoking the policeman. The first words out of her mouth, after she finished screaming were "you're racist, you're abusing me". Even though the police officer was African-American!

Trust me, this woman was looking for a way to buy a new Pathfinder. You don't drive 70mph through a busy intersection, and a RED LIGHT, and then tell the cops 'you hold on, I'm on the phone. I'll get off when I feel like it. You just wait for now", unless you're trying to get a response. When the cop pointed the taser at her, the first thing she said to her friend was "get down here". Lawsuit shopping, maybe not very identifiable to Europeans, but alas, all too common here in the US.

**Kanamori** · 06-07-2005, 18:41

I'd imagine it's good for business

**Beirut** · 06-07-2005, 22:39

That cop is a POS. He should be fired, sued, and thrown in jail. If not for assault then for aggravated stupidity. Two cops, armed to the teeth, experienced in unarmed combat techniques to subdue individuals, backup available, and they resort to a level of desperate violence against a verbally resisting 22 year-old woman.

Idiot. Idiot. Idiot.

And they wonder why so many people hate them.

**Ldvs** · 06-08-2005, 09:43

Originally Posted by Beirut

verbally resisting 22 year-old woman.

Who's the idiot then? If he had dragged her out of the car it would have certainly been more violent than what happened. As Corleone said it, she was likely looking for a lawsuit.

**Beirut** · 06-08-2005, 11:26

If that bonehead cop was worth half his salary, he would be well able to use a simple wrist hold or something like it and force her out of the car. Resorting to using a Taser because a 22 year-old woman didn't jump to his command is ridiculous. I'm not saying the conditions don't exist that would justify using the Taser on her, but that the conditions did not exist at the time to use the Taser on her.

It is well known that many people have died after being hit with a Taser. There was no risk to the cop's life (from what I could see). She was not attempting to flee. She was not posing a threat to herself or others. She was simply giving the cop a hard time. That does not justify what he did. He was lazy, arrogant, unprofessional, acted dangerously and with contempt for life and used a measure of violence all out of proportion to the threat.

Fire the bum, sue the department, and make a tv movie of the whole stupid thing.