Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
And then people wonder why I want to be considered belgian and not Dutch

We both have our problems of course, but the Dutch 'let's talk about it' attitude sickens me sometimes. You don't NEED to understand criminals, just punish them.
More of a 'let's don't do anything at all unless something is directed against immigrants' attitude, then you get 3 years in prison for thinking about torching a mosk