One in five children bullied by text

[Steppe Merc]

First you say if someone needs to talk, they have to and it doesn't disrupt. Now you say it doesn't disrupt if they don't talk. Pick your version fo events...

Well if someone is talking on the phone in the bathroom or something, or in lunch. If they wanna talk in class, that's probably not a good thing, but I really couldn't care less about most of my teachers and if they have a hard time.

And how many people actually turn their phones to silent, or respect others and not talk in class?

Good point. Though cell phones disapearing doesn't magically make people more respectful.

edit: bmolsson, good luck with your suit.

Kaiser, you got rent a cops? We've got real ones... my friends know them all by name, cause the ones in school are mainly the ones that have busted them.

[mercian billman]

Students should be banned from having cell phones in school (Yeah it's awesome being a graduate )

Seriously though cell phones are a distraction because there's always that 10% that do not turn theirs off or set them on silent. Teachers and administrators have enough problems to deal with these days and allowing cell phones only invites more problems. Until I see a study that states cell phones are beneficial in schools I will be opposed to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for respecting students, but these days kids think respect means bending over and taking it...

[Redleg]

Well if someone is talking on the phone in the bathroom or something, or in lunch. If they wanna talk in class, that's probably not a good thing, but I really couldn't care less about most of my teachers and if they have a hard time.

So is it that you don't care to particpate in the learning process? And that is sacrism

Now seriousily - have you ever tried to instruct anyone in a classroom environment. Its a little harder then you image especially in a room full of people who will not particpate nor give the students around them the respect to provide them an enviroment in which the teacher can instruct the lesson of the day. Respect is a two way street - when you as an individual show disrespect or uncaring attitude toward the instructor - they have a tendency to return the favor and vice versa. Cell Phones in the classroom are nothing more then a distraction. There is absolutely no reason for a teenager in the classroom to have a cell phone. If its about emeragancy contact by your parent - then they can always use the age old method of calling the school directly, and pulling you out of the classroom.

And frankly you should care about your teachers having a hard time instructing you - because it distracts from your time. That is about the most acidine and idiotic statement I have seen - the problem is that many teenagers feel that way. If you don't care about your time - quit school and become a day labor and don't waste your time any longer with education.

Good point. Though cell phones disapearing doesn't magically make people more respectful.

No it won't - but once again name one good reason for a student to have a cell phone on in the classroom.

Kaiser, you got rent a cops? We've got real ones... my friends know them all by name, cause the ones in school are mainly the ones that have busted them.

When you know the police officer by name because they have arrested you or stopped you from behaving badly - then the problem is on the student and the parents of that student - not the police.

[Steppe Merc]

Now seriousily - have you ever tried to instruct anyone in a classroom environment. Its a little harder then you image especially in a room full of people who will not particpate nor give the students around them the respect to provide them an enviroment in which the teacher can instruct the lesson of the day. Respect is a two way street - when you as an individual show disrespect or uncaring attitude toward the instructor - they have a tendency to return the favor and vice versa. Cell Phones in the classroom are nothing more then a distraction. There is absolutely no reason for a teenager in the classroom to have a cell phone. If its about emeragancy contact by your parent - then they can always use the age old method of calling the school directly, and pulling you out of the classroom.

Yeah, I guess you're right. Just feeling the pre exam stress right now...
And recently I had to give a lesson for a class period as a test grade in English. And it wasn't fun... so I can understand why teachers are grumpy sometimes.

And frankly you should care about your teachers having a hard time instructing you - because it distracts from your time. That is about the most acidine and idiotic statement I have seen - the problem is that many teenagers feel that way. If you don't care about your time - quit school and become a day labor and don't waste your time any longer with education.

I apologize, I was acting a bit stupid by saying that comment. I do like some of my teachers, and I never disrupt any of the classes that I'm in. But I really have difficulty getting worked up over whether some of my teachers classes get distrupted, at least in the classes that I don't understand at all, despite my hardest effort.
And my mom, and two of my aunts are or were teachers. So I do know that not all of them are evil, and that it is hard work. But I don't think that just having a cell phone deserves getting more points (you accumlate points, then when you get to 15, you get a 3 day Saterday detention), than a cut class gets. But that's probably just my school, cause my school is ... not normal, and not in a positive way.

And I can see not wanting to have phones ringing in class, and I guess those kids could be punished. But people also get in trouble for talking during lunch or in between classes or in the bathroom. How is that disruptive?

When you know the police officer by name because they have arrested you or stopped you from behaving badly - then the problem is on the student and the parents of that student - not the police.

It wasn't me. And I didn't mean to say it was the polices fault. It just is.
I don't know any of the cops myself, and never really talk to them. I must admit, I'm scared of people twice my weight and that are bald, and have weapons.

[mercian billman]

And I can see not wanting to have phones ringing in class, and I guess those kids could be punished. But people also get in trouble for talking during lunch or in between classes or in the bathroom. How is that disruptive?

Wow you're school isn't normal. Has your school had a bomb threat or something? My old middle school had 18 (can't remember if it was 8 or 18) bomb threats and they have pretty similar restrictions.

[Big King Sanctaphrax]

Wow you're school isn't normal. Has your school had a bomb threat or something? My old middle school had 18 (can't remember if it was 8 or 18) bomb threats and they have pretty similar restrictions.

EIGHTEEN BOMB THREATS?! I can't comprehend that...even if it's just eight, it's still crazy.

[clayton ballentine]

EIGHTEEN BOMB THREATS?! I can't comprehend that...even if it's just eight, it's still crazy.

1 year we had 60 bomb threats

[mercian billman]

EIGHTEEN BOMB THREATS?! I can't comprehend that...even if it's just eight, it's still crazy.

Most bomb threats are not serious, I doubt that even 1 bomb threat was serious but it doesn't matter. The school must respond to each as if they are serious threats and the perpetrators are dealt with pretty harshly.

Mercian, not that I recall. But yeah, you get 10 points for having a cell phone or a dress code violation, and only like 5 if you cut a class.
There has been a couple of fires, but they already had the crazy rules in place already.
I don't really know why my school is like this, other than the fact that the town I live in is very... um upper class and quite uptight.

It sounds like your problem is with the school board, you should petition them to change things. Don't take it out on your teachers and administration they probably hate the restrictions as much as you do. Seriously monitoring halls for people that talk and having to monitor the lunch room means a few teachers are doing that instead of working or taking a break during their prep hour.

[Steppe Merc]

Yeah. And most of my teachers don't really care. If a cell phone goes off, everyone laughs, the teacher just says turn it off, the kid does, and then we go back to learning. If anything, when teacher enforces the rules (confiscates the phone, calls the office, writes down a point slip), then class is really disrupted. Of course, I can see when the call is disprupting, but in my experience, it really isn't that much.

And many teachers are forced to monitor lunches, mainly because due to the huge sizes of the classes of the freshman, they had to split lunches in half, and doulbed the amount of lunch monitors that are teachers.

Just to let everyone know, I'm not an evil kid that torments my teachers. Most I can deal with, but even the ones I hate I never talk during their classes, or anything.

[Steppe Merc]

Mercian, not that I recall. But yeah, you get 10 points for having a cell phone or a dress code violation, and only like 5 if you cut a class.
There has been a couple of fires, but they already had the crazy rules in place already.
I don't really know why my school is like this, other than the fact that the town I live in is very... um upper class and quite uptight.