Archive- Old Download & Install information (beta7)

[R'as al Ghul]

Hello,

seeing that we have info all over the place and people have difficulties finding the download links or installing the mod, I thought I collect all info in this thread. If you encounter any problems, post here.

What do you need? (pre-install requirements)

1. A working version of Medieval:Total War/ Viking Invasion (M:TW/VI). (Gold or Eras versions should also work)
2. The 2.01 patch for Viking Invasion. (check your games version by going to the Main Menu (in game), in the upper left corner the version number is displayed) Available here



Current stable Multiplayer version: Download here
If you just want to join us on Sundays for Multiplayer games, you just need this one download and don't need to look further down. Maps for Multiplayer are in teh old Multiplayer Mappack 1-3 for MTW/VI.

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The Shogun-mod beta 7 files:

Shogun mod beta 7 (Samurai Warlords) files, Install in this order:

1. Shogun mod beta 7 For your convenience it comes as a self-installer.
Download link

2. patch for the Beta_7 version that fixes some things. (for list of changes see beta_7 thread)
Download here

3. MP Mappack:
Download here

4. Two patches or hotfixes for MP. If you want to be up to date with the beta_7 MP testing you need these:
1. MP patch, issued Sunday 15.10.

2. MP patch, issued Sunday 22.10

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The Shogun-mod beta 5 files:

Due to desync problems in Multiplayer we decided to go back to the beta_5 version for the time being. If you want to join us you need these downloads:

Either (and this is recommended) the new beta_5 installer with 11b stats, by CBR: Download here

or

1. The mod itself in its beta_5 version. This was uploaded November 2004
and is the latest version. Download here
The file is in .zip format and is 70MB large.
It contains everything for a single player campaign. or CBR's Samurai Wars installer (older version)

2. The Samurai Wars Multiplayer Add-On. This contains the MP stats 11b plus a working Deadpage file, needed to show corpses on the field.
This set of stats was developed by the Multiplayer community and is said
to provide on of the best gameplays in whole Total War. Download it here

3. STW mappack

Install info: The beta_5 mod files come in zip archives, except CBR's installer. These are compressed files that need decompressing. This is either done with an archiver such as WinZip or WinRar or with the build in function of XP.
Either way you need to specify a target folder for the decompression. This should be the main folder (including the medieval_tw.exe file) of a working version of Medieval:TW/Viking Invasion. You have to accept all overwrites when asked.
Start by decompressing the file STW_Mod_BETA5_20nov.zip then proceed with samuraiwars_11b.zip and finally stwmaps.zip.This last file needs a different target folder. Unzip into Medieval_Total war\battle\maps.
Important note: Please use Winzip or WinRar(free) with these archives because the Windows Unzip function often produces faulty results, puts the files in an extra subfolder.

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Shogun Sound mod

If you have an install of the original Shogun:Total War you can use TosaInu's music/sound-swapper to copy the music of Shogun into Medieval.
Download it here
It comes with its own Readme file.
Please note that in beta_7 we switched the religion from Catholic to Orthodox. The Sound swapper hasn't been updated since. For information on how to get the correct sounds playing please post here.

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Multiplayer replays

Multiplayer replay pack 1, for beta 5
Readme for the replays:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

These Multiplayer replays are intended to be viewed with:
Shogun Mod beta_5 for Medieval:TW/Vi and
Samurai Wars stats 11b

The battles were fought on 22nd October 2006 on
Ulus of Orda, a map from the Multiplayer Mappack1-3.

Players:

Hunter_Tomisama
MizuCBR
MizuTosaInu
MizuYuuki
Ras al Ghul

When experiencing technical difficulties, please refer to the forums of Totalwar.org.

The .vrp replay files need to be copied into Main folder\SaveGames\Battles

The additional required files have been added for your convenience.
Projectiles.txt and STW_10_unit_prod.txt go into the main folder of Shogun_mod.
smap_5.txt goes into Main folder\campmap\startpos

(fL)_O_Ulus of Orda.inf and (fL)_O_Ulus of Orda.jjm go into Main folder\Savemaps

I've also included the logfiles for reference.
They're to be stored in Main folder\Logfiles


Have Fun,

R'as al Ghul

October, 23rd, 2006

When installed the mod is available in the campaign menu.
You have to slide the bead down. The order of selectable
campaigns is: Vikings, Early, High, Late, Samurai Wars MP, smap_7, smap_5

If any questions remain, please don't hesitate to post here.



R'as

[Puzz3D]

Just a bit of clarification. The Samurai Wars Installer is a self extracting installer of the STWmod which is about 40 MB. The zip version of STWmod is 70 MB. The Samurai Wars 10b is a zip file of the Samurai Wars10b unit stats, deadpage and stat swapper which should be installed after installing STWmod. Unzip this to your main MTW/VI game folder. This leaves your game with the Samurai Wars stat enabled. To switch back to regular MTW/VI stats run the STWmod.bat that you'll find in the main MTW/VI folder. Always exit the game to swap stats. This stat swapping is necessary because the game only supports a single projectiles.txt file, and that file had to be modified.

[CBR]

If anything new has been added I can make a new installer? Afterall it does manage to compress the file better than when using winzip (70 mb v 40 mb) Or Ras or Barocca can do it.


CBR

[barocca]

we have added nothing new to the available downloads yet,

there is an awful lot under construction
(actually there is a ton completed too, but the "guts" of the next update are still being made)

I only have an hour or two a day to work on this and R'as is in the same boat,
but every day progress is definately being made

Cheers,
B.

[del Castillo]

hello, am new to the guild but have been playing total war since Shogun (I even played the board game) and own all total war games (STW-WE/MTW+VI/RTW). anyways I tried to download the file "STW_Mod_BETA5_20nov.zip" using the link but am getting a 16 KB file . I used both Flashget (GetRight) and direct download, but I have a pop-up stopper. The other files are all OK. I'm really interested in playing this .mod so if there's a problem I hope it will be corrected soon, if the problem is in the way I'm downloading it please tell me what I'm doing wrong.
or if anybody could post a link for the Samurai Wars installer it'd be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance.

[R'as al Ghul]

Hi del Castillo,

right-clicking and "Save as.." doesn't work.
The file is hosted on 3D Downloads.
You have to left-click the link to get to 3D Downloads.
Once on their page, you click "Start Download" and this
will open a pop-up-window (allow this). In this window
your position in the download-queue is displayed + your estimated
waiting time. Mine (just checked this) was 3 min.

The link for Samurai wars is here .
Need more info? Ask!

[Drisos]

Oops!

I don't have MTW or MTW/VI.

Then I guess no Samurai Wars for me . . .

[R'as al Ghul]

drisos,

Amazon sells a combined package for under 10€.
Affordable, isn't it?
And it's worth it.

[Drisos]

Amazon sells a combined package for under 10€.
And it's worth it.

Sorry for the late reply. Missed out the post.

It's certainly worth it.

You mean www.amazon.co.uk ? (I'll check my own link afterwards, if it's a site)

I am only afraid the way of paying won't be possible for me. I can pay in cash, but for that I'd need to find MTW in a store.

I'll certainly keep my eyes open or just order it somewere.

[del Castillo]

lots thanks R'as al Ghul

and yeah I've forgotten about these hosted downloads

anyways I've downloaded the mod, tried it and have nothing but praises for the mod. thanks again.

[R'as al Ghul]

anyways I've downloaded the mod, tried it and have nothing but praises for the mod. thanks again.

Excellent! You're welcome.
For the next version we have some additions up our sleeves.
The whole start position situation, the titles and heirs are all gonna be changed - we've a bit too many high* generals out there.
The Geisha as strategic piece will be added.

[Hideyoshi]

what if i dont have default shogun TW installed?
is there any way i can get the music from other place, maybe some1 uploaded it?

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post with new information for the beta_7 install.

[Puzz3D]

Updated the first post with new information for the beta_7 install.

I would recommend deleting all the maps in \battle\maps, including the two subfolders (viking and smap), before installing STWmod beta_7. None of the MTW/VI maps will look right with the STW textures until they are manually retextured using the map editor. This will be a lot of work, and will take time to build up the available maps for use in STWmod.

Right now, the beta_7 install overwrites the maps used in the campaign with the 60 retextured STW maps from the original Shogun v1.12 campaign. MTW does not assign a particular map to a particular province, and instead selects a map from a name group based on the terrain of the two adjoining provinces. For example, if an attack comes from a flat province into a hilly province, then the game selects from the flattohilly group. At this time, I'm not sure that a map that matches the description of the terrain will always be chosen, but I did group the STW maps according to their terrain type such as flat, hilly or mountain for both non-river and river maps. This is going to require further testing. Some of the name groups contained a lot of maps, so I used suitable STW maps for some groups more than once. If deleting all MTW/VI maps becomes a pre-requisite for installing STWmod, these name groups can be made smaller thus reducing the number of maps needed.

The STWmod beta_7 also puts the original 60 maps in \savemaps under their original province names so they can be easily identified for use in custom or MP battles, and also includes 24 castle maps and 38 of the custom maps included with STW v1.12 or created by players for a total of 122 maps. Some of these maps provided excellent tactical gameplay, but all are small maps and not suitable for more than a 2v2 in MP because the red zone was expanded to 3 tiles in MTW which significantly reduces the playable area, since unlike original STW, it's not possible to cross into the red zone.

I think these original STWmaps should work well in the campaign. Battles with reinforcements will be shorter, and the fatigue rate is better suited to small maps. One issue I noticed in testing is that terrain which should be impassible is, in fact, passible. I'm not sure why. I'll have to look into this.

The next phase of map conversion I'll work on is retexturing some of the better custom maps from WE/MI such as Horselands. Since water is impassable in MTW, some interesting maps such as Riverlands will have to have the water removed to be playable. Once enough large MTW maps have been retextured, they can be used as the campaign maps for those who want to have large maps in the campaign.

In testing, I saw a problem in one castle battle. The AI which was supposed to be sieging a castle started inside the castle. I believe this happened when I sent reinforcements to lift a siege. This will have to be looked into further. The castles themselves may be too strong or too weak. Some feedback on this would be welcome. Right now, all walls, towers, keeps and guardhouses shoot, so the castles are exhibiting their maximum firepower. There are non-shooting versions of all of these structuces which can be substituted. Also, the rate of fire could be increased by barocca if the castles are considered to be too weak. I don't yet have maps for castle sizes 6 and 7 since original STW didn't have castles that large.

[Tomisama]

(As the question came up last Sunday)

Just a note on the fresh install of MTW/VI for Samurai Warlords modification.

Viking Invasion can be installed over Medieval v1.0 directly, as VI has the v1.1 upgrade. Do not reinstall v1.1 after you have installed VI (not needed, and will cause errors).

All you need is MTW, VI, and the v2.01 VI patch, before installing the Samurai Warlords mod.

[R'as al Ghul]

As far as I can tell the server is up again.
I've no confirmation from Tosa, but downloading should work now.

[TosaInu]

Update:

Sorry, I didn't post the alternative way to access the site clear enough (took a while to figure this all out). https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=14

One year ago, the site was moved from one server box to another at the same hosting company, because the host deemed the site needed more resources. The old one had to be deleted after 72 hours. That was not done, and part in the host administration told them that we were still on the old box.

All went 'well' for a year, but last Monday/Tuesday the DNS at the host was fixed and that included a pointer of mizus.com to the old server.

Quite a bit of confusion and it took a while to fix (while the fix itself is pretty straightforward).

I apologise for the inconvenience and will work harder to have the 'mirrors' up to date.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I am COnfused

I got no idea what files I need to go

I got Beta 7
MP Patch 7.1
And the Mappack 2

what do I really need to get??

[CBR]

For MP we use Beta5 http://www.mizus.com/files/files/MTW..._beta5_11b.exe That installer has everything you need except the maps of course.


CBR

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

ok thanks m8.....

I ijust installed it, and I went on VI, bt I didn't see anything about this Mod in the Game Option thing.What should I do now?

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post to make it clearer that the beta 5 version is used for MP these days.

beta_8 is almost done. Even though barocca is really busy with real life he found some time to edit the cavalry animations that presumably gave us trouble in MP. He's almost finished.
Only a week or so....

R'as

[DrIstvaan]

Hi all, I've just tried this mod, and so far I like it a lot. I have one problem, though, with copying music from STW to this, and since I couldn't find a thread for that swapper utility, I thought I'd post it here. So, it says as a first step to run SoundSetupSTW to create a rollback folder. But when I start that .bat file, nothing happens. I checked the contents of the file, and saw I should get some info message, and a choice of continuing or quitting, but that doesn't happen. Could someone tell me what to do? Or redirect me to a thread dedicated to this music copyer?

[Puzz3D]

Running SoundSetupSTW.bat and SoundSwapperSTW.bat

The bat file needs choice.com, which is an old DOS command file, to display the menu. You should already have it in your main game folder, and I know it's included in the samuraiwars_11b.zip. You can put it in C:\WINDOWS\system32 folder so that any bat file can find it. Here are all the posts I was able to find on using the SoundSwapper. I'll repost them here:

Tomisama:

Ok, lets give a full explanation a go

If you are running the SoundSetupSTW program in the Medieval – Total War\Sounds folder, it will create a new folder called Sounds in that folder, and place a STW folder and MTW folder in it, with empty Orders, Troops, and Frontend folders in "each".

*MD = Make Directory

MD Sounds
MD Sounds\STW
MD Sounds\STW\Orders
MD Sounds\STW\Troops
MD Sounds\STW\Frontend

MD Sounds\MTW
MD Sounds\MTW\Orders
MD Sounds\MTW\Troops
MD Sounds\MTW\Frontend

*Then it copies some of the original MTW files from the program, to the empty Sounds\MTW folder. First all of the Orders\Latin files, then all of the Frontend files.

COPY ..\Sounds\Battle\Orders\Latin\*.* Sounds\MTW\Orders
COPY ..\Sounds\Frontend\*.* Sounds\MTW\Frontend

*Then the original Music folder files directly into the new Sounds folder (Mtw or MTW is the same to the DOS program).

ECHO. This may take a few minutes, have patience please.
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Battle 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Battle 2.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Battle 3.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Lose 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Mobilize 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Mobilize 2.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Mobilize 3.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Strat Summer 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Strat Summer 2.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Strat Winter 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Strat Winter 2.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Tension 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Tension 2.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Tension 3.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Win 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw
COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Frontend.wav" Sounds\Mtw

*And finally the original Battle\Troops\Horn files into the Troops folder.

COPY ..\Sounds\Battle\Troops\"Horn_Euro_Alpine_Advance. wav" Sounds\MTW\Troops
COPY ..\Sounds\Battle\Troops\"Horn_Euro_Alpine_Retreat. wav" Sounds\MTW\Troops

*All of them now reconfigured to fit a format that the SoundSwapperSTW program expects to see.

The “reconfiguration” is the key.

In the Medieval – Total War\Sounds folder you will now have the original game program sound files in their original configuration. And you will have the original game program sound files in the “reconfiguration” order inside the “new” Sounds\MTW folder.

When you copy the STW folder contents (guess you could do it whole, and answer “yes” to the copyover) that you made in the Shogun – Total War main directory, into the Medieval – Total War\Sounds\Sounds\STW folder, you will have a “reconfiguration” of the Shogun sounds.

When you run SoundSwapperSTW and select either the Shogun or Medieval files to be transferred, they are read in their “reconfigured” state, and are sent to overwrite the original game program sound files in their “original” configuration.

At any given time thereafter, you will always have “one” original configuration (either Shogun "or" Medieval) of sound files for the game program to use, and "two" sets of reconfigured files (Shogun "and" Medieval) that the swap program will use to reload your choice, when changing from one type of operation to the other.



Puzz3D:

This command: COPY ..\Sounds\Music\"Euro Battle 1.wav" Sounds\Mtw means the bat file has to be run from a folder just below the Sounds folder. The .. means to back up one folder and then the command goes down the Sounds\Music branch, gets EuroBattle 1.wav and copies it to Sounds\Mtw. Sounds\Mtw has no \ in front of it so it will be a folder under where you are running the SoundSetup.bat.

Make sure your system can find choice.com. Put it in C:\WINDOWS\system32 folder.



Jochi Khan:

Update to STWSounds install.............

I have now manually copied the files that Tomi listed in his post above.
I still cannot get the STWSound to work.

Below is the information that I get when I run the the SoundSwapper.

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STW SoundSwapper....Choose stats A STW Music
B MTW Music
C STW Orders
D MTW Orders

A. The system cannot find the path specified
0 file/s copied
Repeated about 20 times STW Music


B. Sounds\MTW\Euro Battles1.wav
The system cannot find the path specified
0 file/s copied
Sounds\MTW\Frontend\DESELECT.wav
The system cannot find the path specified
0 file/s copied MTW Music

C. The system cannot find the path specified
0 file/s copied
Repeated about 16 times Japanese Orders

D. Sounds\MTW\Orders
The system cannot find the path specified
0 file/s copied MTW Latin Orders


All the copied files appear to be in their right places.



Puzz3D:

Jochi,

Apparently, the SoundSetup.bat and SoundSwapperSTW.bat can't find the files to copy them. Those bat files have to be in the right place relative to the files they are trying to copy. This is the folder structure you need under your main game folder:

\Sounds


\STWsetup
\STWsetup\Sounds
\STWsetup\Sounds\MTW
\STWsetup\Sounds\MTW\Frontend
\STWsetup\Sounds\MTW\Orders
\STWsetup\Sounds\MTWTroops
\STWsetup\Sounds\STW
\STWsetup\Sounds\STW\Frontend
\STWsetup\Sounds\STW\Orders
\STWsetup\Sounds\STWTroops


SoundSetupSTW.bat and SoundSwapperSTW.bat should be in the STWsetup folder. The Sounds folder and the STWsetup folder must be directly under the main game folder.

[dimitrios the samian]

Hi Puzz3D ,, Ive recently re-loaded MTW VI and getting back into it again afer some time on RTW+mods ,,, I still have some of the old mods and looking at getting some new ones including this one ,, My Question ... Should I wait until a next release or download this version ? cause it seems difficult to install as i been reading above ,, cheers .. DTS

[R'as al Ghul]

Hi dimitros,

it sounds more difficult than it is.
You actually only need the beta_7 and the beta_7_patch download. (see my signature)
Both are installers that will ask you for the main directory of Medieval.
Only if you want to copy the sound files of your original Shogun install over to the mod, then it can get a bit hairy.

Beta_8 should be finished soon (end of week hopefully) and will come as a single installer that does all the work but the sounds won't be included in it either.

R'as

[Tomisama]

If the next revision is going to provide a dedicated copy (no file swapping), then the sound transfers from STW should be a snap

Has anyone ever ask for “special permission” for limited distribution of the copywrited STW sound and voice files (can be done through a large file transfer site). It is not as if there was any profit making involved or anything.

I mean, at one time, the background music was being made available for free download from the dot com, and I don’t think it really should be a problem...

[Puzz3D]

Hi Puzz3D ,, Ive recently re-loaded MTW VI and getting back into it again afer some time on RTW+mods ,,, I still have some of the old mods and looking at getting some new ones including this one ,, My Question ... Should I wait until a next release or download this version ? cause it seems difficult to install as i been reading above ,, cheers .. DTS

Wait for beta8. The impassable terrain problem on the beta7 maps is fixed and the castles are better looking and much stronger. I sent R'as the parameter file for stronger castles last night.

[|Heerbann|_Luculus]

Is Beta8 for campaign and multi-player ?




We had to play Valor One tournament last sunday. My clannies all had installed beta5 and now it works. We will play it the next days and hope we can fill a 4v4 next sunday.

[DrIstvaan]

Thank you for the quick reply, now the music works well. BTW, I haven't downloaded Samurai wars 11b earlier, as I don't intend playing MP, and if I get it right, that one has nothing to do with single player.