Archive- Old Download & Install information (beta7)

[axel]

Hi i have a fresh install of MTW and VI with the update s and i have the 70 mb download and the 40 mb download
wot do i have to do first and second to play this mod????? i am a newbie in this

[Dimeola]

.here`s a tip..after you get it installed and you go to play...VI runs and you get the campaign choice screen....initially you will see VI and MTW but not Samurai...scroll down the choices for campaign games and you will see Samurai.
dimeolas

[axel]

Hi mate i meen how to place the mod ?

[R'as al Ghul]

Axel,

doubleclick the installer you downloaded (try the 70MB first).
A program window will open, asking you where to install.
Answer with your install destination (the folder where your MTW version lives).
Second, smaller installer works the same way.

Once installed, you'll find a new "era" after "Late".

R'as

[axel]

ok thx mate ill trye

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post with new information for the beta_7 install.

[Puzz3D]

Updated the first post with new information for the beta_7 install.

I would recommend deleting all the maps in \battle\maps, including the two subfolders (viking and smap), before installing STWmod beta_7. None of the MTW/VI maps will look right with the STW textures until they are manually retextured using the map editor. This will be a lot of work, and will take time to build up the available maps for use in STWmod.

Right now, the beta_7 install overwrites the maps used in the campaign with the 60 retextured STW maps from the original Shogun v1.12 campaign. MTW does not assign a particular map to a particular province, and instead selects a map from a name group based on the terrain of the two adjoining provinces. For example, if an attack comes from a flat province into a hilly province, then the game selects from the flattohilly group. At this time, I'm not sure that a map that matches the description of the terrain will always be chosen, but I did group the STW maps according to their terrain type such as flat, hilly or mountain for both non-river and river maps. This is going to require further testing. Some of the name groups contained a lot of maps, so I used suitable STW maps for some groups more than once. If deleting all MTW/VI maps becomes a pre-requisite for installing STWmod, these name groups can be made smaller thus reducing the number of maps needed.

The STWmod beta_7 also puts the original 60 maps in \savemaps under their original province names so they can be easily identified for use in custom or MP battles, and also includes 24 castle maps and 38 of the custom maps included with STW v1.12 or created by players for a total of 122 maps. Some of these maps provided excellent tactical gameplay, but all are small maps and not suitable for more than a 2v2 in MP because the red zone was expanded to 3 tiles in MTW which significantly reduces the playable area, since unlike original STW, it's not possible to cross into the red zone.

I think these original STWmaps should work well in the campaign. Battles with reinforcements will be shorter, and the fatigue rate is better suited to small maps. One issue I noticed in testing is that terrain which should be impassible is, in fact, passible. I'm not sure why. I'll have to look into this.

The next phase of map conversion I'll work on is retexturing some of the better custom maps from WE/MI such as Horselands. Since water is impassable in MTW, some interesting maps such as Riverlands will have to have the water removed to be playable. Once enough large MTW maps have been retextured, they can be used as the campaign maps for those who want to have large maps in the campaign.

In testing, I saw a problem in one castle battle. The AI which was supposed to be sieging a castle started inside the castle. I believe this happened when I sent reinforcements to lift a siege. This will have to be looked into further. The castles themselves may be too strong or too weak. Some feedback on this would be welcome. Right now, all walls, towers, keeps and guardhouses shoot, so the castles are exhibiting their maximum firepower. There are non-shooting versions of all of these structuces which can be substituted. Also, the rate of fire could be increased by barocca if the castles are considered to be too weak. I don't yet have maps for castle sizes 6 and 7 since original STW didn't have castles that large.

[Tomisama]

(As the question came up last Sunday)

Just a note on the fresh install of MTW/VI for Samurai Warlords modification.

Viking Invasion can be installed over Medieval v1.0 directly, as VI has the v1.1 upgrade. Do not reinstall v1.1 after you have installed VI (not needed, and will cause errors).

All you need is MTW, VI, and the v2.01 VI patch, before installing the Samurai Warlords mod.

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post with newest info.
I hope it's a bit clearer now.

[Puzz3D]

For beta_7 testing, you also have to copy the \Textures\Ground\Lush and the Winter subfolder under that from a regular MTW install to the STWmod install.

CBR is making a new beta_5 installer that contains the 11b stats.

[R'as al Ghul]

Well, I've this bold theory that once we switch back to beta_5 cav with the MP fix 2, we can use the textures and models from beta_7. That is if we ever test this again before we finish beta_8.

I'm not implying to be not satisfied, I've recovered from the desync frustration and after looking at the files and detailed differences between beta_5 and 7 again, I'm pretty sure that it's the cav.

I for one imagine an MP version with all the goodies and no desync.

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post again, this time adding the link to CBR's new installer for beta_5 with 11b stats.

[Tomisama]

http://www.mizus.com/files/files/MTW/Stats/STWmod_beta5_11b.exe

Doesnt seem to be working, or I have done something wrong

[CBR]

There are still problems with the server


CBR

[Arciel]

So... when will beta 7 be available for download again? I'm itching to play this mod as I've never played Shogun before.

[R'as al Ghul]

Have patience, it can't be long.
Watch this space for any news.

[Arciel]

Cool then

[R'as al Ghul]

As far as I can tell the server is up again.
I've no confirmation from Tosa, but downloading should work now.

[TosaInu]

Update:

Sorry, I didn't post the alternative way to access the site clear enough (took a while to figure this all out). https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...6&postcount=14

One year ago, the site was moved from one server box to another at the same hosting company, because the host deemed the site needed more resources. The old one had to be deleted after 72 hours. That was not done, and part in the host administration told them that we were still on the old box.

All went 'well' for a year, but last Monday/Tuesday the DNS at the host was fixed and that included a pointer of mizus.com to the old server.

Quite a bit of confusion and it took a while to fix (while the fix itself is pretty straightforward).

I apologise for the inconvenience and will work harder to have the 'mirrors' up to date.

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

I am COnfused

I got no idea what files I need to go

I got Beta 7
MP Patch 7.1
And the Mappack 2

what do I really need to get??

[CBR]

For MP we use Beta5 http://www.mizus.com/files/files/MTW..._beta5_11b.exe That installer has everything you need except the maps of course.


CBR

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

ok thanks m8.....

I ijust installed it, and I went on VI, bt I didn't see anything about this Mod in the Game Option thing.What should I do now?

[CBR]

In hosting screen you should see a new era to pick from (smap beta_5)


CBR

[ELITEofWARMANGINGERYBREADMEN88]

ah ok,thought so, I try it out later,:-), thanks m8, now I get to play that :-).

[Puzz3D]

You have to scroll down to see the smap_beta5 era. Right now we are using the beta5 because beta7 has problems in MP. Very few people have this mod right now, and we play on Sundays.

[Arciel]

What a great mod! Congratulations to everyone involved here! Just a question though, there seems to be a problem with the geisha. When I right- click on the icon of the infamous teahouse, it displays something like this: With Infamous Ninja Dojo Produces: (!!!STW_Geisha_Plural!!!)Could not translate...

[R'as al Ghul]

What a great mod! Congratulations to everyone involved here!

Thanks, it's appreciated.

Just a question though, there seems to be a problem with the geisha. When I right- click on the icon of the infamous teahouse, it displays something like this: With Infamous Ninja Dojo Produces: (!!!STW_Geisha_Plural!!!)Could not translate...

Okay, that's a bug in the localisation file, meaning I haven't specified the plural of Geisha. Will be fixed and should not interfere with gameplay. You can use the agent but the identifier will not display correctly.
Thanks for pointing that out. Would you mind posting feedback in the feedback thread in future? We'd also like to know what you think about the smap_7 campaign. Is it too hard? Is there enough income? Is the troop production balanced? What's the AI doing? Etc....

R'as

[Arciel]

All right then

[R'as al Ghul]

Updated the first post to make it clearer that the beta 5 version is used for MP these days.

beta_8 is almost done. Even though barocca is really busy with real life he found some time to edit the cavalry animations that presumably gave us trouble in MP. He's almost finished.
Only a week or so....

R'as

[Irinami]

Okay, that's a bug in the localisation file, meaning I haven't specified the plural of Geisha.

I'd strongly recommend not over-adapting the language. That is, leave it Geisha. There are no direct plurals in Japanese. Geisha (or katana or tachi or whatever) can mean either one or many; you can specify just how many, but if the specific quantity isn't a focus of the sentence then you're usually left to pick it up from context.