Victimhood: Rhetoric or reality?

[Tribesman]

lol Borat in USA has to be the greatest TV thing ever...
the country song....HAHAHAHA
Ah yes , the country song , where he got a fine upstanding bunch of people to enthusiasticly sing along to "Kill the Jews Kill them all" .
Classic , he couldn't sing and couldn't play , but oh how the audience just loved the lyrics .
So... Rhetoric or reality ?

Of course they don't have an equal say as whites in the government, but that's democracy, you see, there are less blacks then whites, so the whites have more voting power.
But the author of the original article thinks that blacks even if they are the majority cannot be an effective government . He thinks they benefit more if they are ruled by a white minority government .

[Fragony]

[B]
the country song....HAHAHAHA
Ah yes , the country song , where he got a fine upstanding bunch of people to enthusiasticly sing along to "Kill the Jews Kill them all" .
Classic , he couldn't sing and couldn't play , but oh how the audience just loved the lyrics .

I saw that, that was hilarious, wasn't the singer jewish himself? Kind of reminds me of Charlie Chaplin who participated in a best lookalike match (he got the third place)

[Idaho]

So that means you're giving us middle class conservative types who agree with these wealthy Americans a free pass on the matter?

I find your tone regarding wealthy Americans to be quite amusing...

When you progress from one tax bracket to the next because of your own hard work it has a funny way of changing your outlook on the world and on those who had the same opportunities you did as a child. Please take note that a large percentage of those arrogant wealthy Americans come from not so wealthy backgrounds. America is THE country for self made men and women (i.e. those that qualify as 'well off' or wealthy), our history is polluted with success stories of people who rose from humble beginnings. There are Asian kids I grew up with whose parents were, as they say, 'off the boat' and took whatever menial jobs as seamstresses, cooks and physical laborers they could find. Those same immigrants saw their kids go on to earn salaries in the upper 5 and lower 6 figures because they instilled in them an excellent work ethic. A good friend of mine (Greek/Jewish) was born to a father who was a mailman and a mother who was a social worker. He and his siblings lived in a rent controlled apartment, shared a single bedroom, wore inexpensive clothes and probably never shopped at an expensive dept. store except for the occasional holiday gift. Despite their obviously humble origins my friend and his brother went on to start their own software company in California and were eventually making money hand over fist.

To put it bluntly there simply aren't enough 'old money' families here in the States to decry our upper class as a fixed and immovable 'blue blood' aristocracy. The socio-economic 'glass ceiling' effect that still exists in Europe doesn't exist here in the States and if and where it does exist, it's more of a nuisance than an outright obstacle. Sure, we still have our share of nepotism and 'rich kid on the fast track to success' stories but for the rest of us good old hard work still pays off. So when you read about these wealthy Americans bitching and moaning as to why their fellow Americans in lower tax brackets ought to trade in their excuses for hard work maybe you ought to take it for what it is rather than what you'd like it to be.

Nonsense. The vast majority of millionaires in America are born millionaires, not made millionaires.

[Idaho]

I saw that, that was hilarious, wasn't the singer jewish himself? Kind of reminds me of Charlie Chaplin who participated in a best lookalike match (he got the third place)

Yes Sacha Baron Cohen... Jewish comedian who takes the piss out of the usual Jewish targets of prejudice. He's dodgy for sure.

[Steppe Merc]

That's not a good thing, but should we call ourselves rascists for not giving those stoners as much of an oppertunity as we give someone who's clean and responsable?

They aren't stoners. They are junkies. There's a difference. Stoners do pot. Junkies do coke and herion.

[John86]

• Collages in America give preferance to black and minority students over white students, even if the white student is more qualified to fill the position as a student of the university.

Good point. This is direct racism to whites. Not allowing a student to attend a college becasue he is white.

[GoreBag]

They aren't stoners. They are junkies. There's a difference. Stoners do pot. Junkies do coke and herion.

Nah, junkies are the ones who lay around in crackhouses all day because the heroin is screwing them up. They're basically harmless until they've been in need of a hit for a few days, and only then when the ol' "oral sex for drugs" thing stops working on the grounds that the junkie is no longer attractive in any way due to malnutrition and lack of hygiene.

Ah yes , the country song , where he got a fine upstanding bunch of people to enthusiasticly sing along to "Kill the Jews Kill them all".

That's "throw the Jew down the well, so my country can be free". I thought it was great, whether or not the Southern Americans really hate Jews or not.

[Steppe Merc]

Good point. But I wouldn't call most street people stoners, as it's often termed with harmless, brain cell deprived long haired types.