A little thing I'd like to see in sieges...

[eadingas]

If we had unit/model space, we could probably clone the siege engines models/animations to regular foot units...although that would result in minimum six engines per unit on small size. It _could_ work, but would be a lot of work, and I think we'd be out of unit limit way before that...

[ENSAIS]

Just a thought...
I have often wondered if something like this (ie using seige machinery as a defender) might be accomplished if cities had higher elevation within them... so the seige equipment could sit at a higher level than the seigers below.





________(rest of city)>>>
wall> I /
I ________ /
I /
_____I___

[jerby]

havnt got a clue what you mean.
but have you seen troy (i know, its crap) but you mean liek that? where the city rises further and further into teh center? its a kidn of cone-shaped. als happens in lotr3 teh huge city.

[eadingas]

If we make earthen embankments around the city, wide enough, then it should probably work... but then there couldn't be regular walls around the city, because the walls = city borders, and you can't place defending units outside city borders. It would look weird if there was a giant hill build _behind_ the walls, for artillery to shoot from. Practical in RTW, perhaps, but not very realistic...

[Spitful]

But in rome there were embankments sa well as h eseven hills so we could get away with it if we were clever where we pu tthem.

[Sfwartir]

Yeah, probably Athens too..but then again, such hills should't be modded to unrealistic scales.

[soibean]

well before everyone yells at me for how stupid this idea is, you have to understand I dont know anything about modding so I dont know whats possible but here it goes.
Troops can be placed on walls and on ground, while artilley can only be placed on ground right? Is it possible to alter the code of the tower/wall/plateau that uses the ground data on the wall? example: use the road data on the wall since the wall walkway is hard coded? possible or am I just stupid?

[Dux Corvanus]

but have you seen troy (i know, its crap).

Troy -the film- is not crap. It's murder in attempt degree against Homer, only failed because of the poor man -or compiler/s- yet dead.

The screen writer should be put against a wall and shot. At least he could have let live some people so we can have the rest of the tale. But, not. Apart from inventing a nice love story between Cassandra and Achilles, he spares Paris, who acts like a sissy, while he kills Menelaus, Ajax and Agamemnon, who never gets back to be murdered by Aegistos and Clitemnestra. Orestes and Electra sure got bored, playing parcheese with Iphigenia, never sacrificed in Aulis.

But, oh, yeh, teenie girls sure had a big time with Brad Pitt half naked around all the movie.

[Spacemonk]

yes and only the teenie girls, cause he acted like shit...
But beware!! They're making this new movie about I donno what actually, I thought it was crusades or something. It'll probably be just as great as Troy!! YAY *sigh*

[Sfwartir]

Do you mean Kingdom of Heaven, with that skinny little sod Orlando Bloom? KoH is a whole lot better than Troy, but still not good enough. That's my opinion, anyway. Might be because I hate young Bloom's "let's-try-to-look-philosophical-and-a-tad-concerned" look. Might very well be. That, and the wife likes him. That helps too.

[shifty157]

Do you mean Kingdom of Heaven, with that skinny little sod Orlando Bloom? KoH is a whole lot better than Troy, but still not good enough. That's my opinion, anyway. Might be because I hate young Bloom's "let's-try-to-look-philosophical-and-a-tad-concerned" look. Might very well be. That, and the wife likes him. That helps too.

Kingdom of Heaven really really blew. In many different areas.

[Jebus]

Troy -the film- is not crap. It's murder in attempt degree against Homer, only failed because of the poor man -or compiler/s- yet dead.

The screen writer should be put against a wall and shot. At least he could have let live some people so we can have the rest of the tale. But, not. Apart from inventing a nice love story between Cassandra and Achilles, he spares Paris, who acts like a sissy, while he kills Menelaus, Ajax and Agamemnon, who never gets back to be murdered by Aegistos and Clitemnestra. Orestes and Electra sure got bored, playing parcheese with Iphigenia, never sacrificed in Aulis.

But, oh, yeh, teenie girls sure had a big time with Brad Pitt half naked around all the movie.

I always found it amusing people would object to a director taking artistic liberties in a work that is pure fiction anyway. For one thing, Homeros probably never existed, and secondly; the Illiad we now know probably has little to do with the original story anyway.

I never saw the movie, but it's funny some people have real problems with this. I mean: who cares? Did anyone really expect that film to be 'true' to the movie?
Because boy, that would make for one sucky movie.

[Sarcasm]

Then you probably have never read the Illiad....

[Jebus]

Then you probably have never read the Illiad....

Unfortunately, I had to read translate large chunks of it from Latin in high school.

So I'm pretty well aware of the original Illiad :-/

[bodidley]

I always found it amusing people would object to a director taking artistic liberties in a work that is pure fiction anyway. For one thing, Homeros probably never existed, and secondly; the Illiad we now know probably has little to do with the original story anyway.

I never saw the movie, but it's funny some people have real problems with this. I mean: who cares? Did anyone really expect that film to be 'true' to the movie?
Because boy, that would make for one sucky movie.

Considering that Wolfgang Petersen directed the masterpiece Das Boot, Peter O'Tool delivered one of the best performances in the history of film as Lawrence of Arabia, and Brad Pitt has displayed his talent in 12 Monkeys as well as Fight Club, I would suspect that the crapocity of Troy had little to do with innovative artistic license. This is especially true when one considers that story in the movie=crap, Illiad+Quintus of Smyrna=not crap

P.S.

P.P.S. No hard feelings

[anonymous_joe]

Troy was, and always will be, a terrible film.

As a 'dramatisation' of the Iliad, erm, no deities, no Diomedes, no Aeneas, Patrokolos that young minx etc etc. Utter shite. And Paris wasn't a wimp, he wouldn't fight for the same reason as Achilleus, people didn't respect him. Though Menelaus does beat him in that fight of theirs.

[jerby]

Troy -the film- is not crap. It's murder in attempt degree against Homer, only failed because of the poor man -or compiler/s- yet dead.

The screen writer should be put against a wall and shot. At least he could have let live some people so we can have the rest of the tale. But, not. Apart from inventing a nice love story between Cassandra and Achilles, he spares Paris, who acts like a sissy, while he kills Menelaus, Ajax and Agamemnon, who never gets back to be murdered by Aegistos and Clitemnestra. Orestes and Electra sure got bored, playing parcheese with Iphigenia, never sacrificed in Aulis.

But, oh, yeh, teenie girls sure had a big time with Brad Pitt half naked around all the movie.

The Story sucked. i expected it to be more like the awsome book. with Menelaos living, ajax's suicide, Agamemnon living. Paris nOt being a pussy, and Patroclus being older than Achilles. Sword fights not looking like ballet .and NOT killing 100 people with 120 arrows:they dropped like bushes from arrows shot at them frontally!!
I liked the scenery and Hektor. thats all. teh rest should be shot, hanged, descecrated, shot and hanged again...just as a figure of speech of course