Puzz3D?

[WombatSlayer]

Hehe, I was told by someone to look for Puzz3D... I have no idea how to play original Shogun TW online :(

Any help?

[Shambles]

Shure,
have a look here my fried
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=48438

Absolutley everything you need to know.

The stw mp thread also has lots of info,
but may requier a lot of searching,

You can tell people when your going to be playing there though
heres the link
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=36736

Im not puzz3d. btw.

:)

I do beleve that the server will work for origional shogun too,
but you may want to get the MI add on.
as i dont know if you can play agianst people who have WE/MI with the origional shogun.

Prehaps i should find my old shogun an test it out.


ShambleS

[WombatSlayer]

Thankee sai :p

I will make use of your link.


XD

[Shambles]

I have tested the origional shogun with Shogun WE MI and Shogun origional.
The game just does not seem to work with the server I am Running,

I will try to find out how i can host a server for the origional version.
But unfortunatly Right now,
You can only play
Warlords edition or the origional shogun with the Mongold invasion installed,

I will inform you if i can host a server that will host the origional shogun game.

Sorry.
ShambleS

[Drisos]

Welcome to the .org Wombatslayer! Please give us a short introduction of you in this thread: https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=48375

I am pretty sure you cannot play against people with WE, but I think you can use the server for the original shogun.

I don't think there are many people left playing shogun original. The few diehards we have play WE, so I think it's best to try to find a copy of that if you want to play online.

I'd be glad to play with you.

[Jochi Khan]

As long as another person has the original shogun you can play together on a Fakeserver.

People with original STW can play together.
People with STW/MI and STW/WE can play together.
But people with original STW cannot play with people with STW/MI or /WE

Jochi

[Shambles]

I tired last night.

You cant.

[Drisos]

You cant.

can't [u]use the server[/b] with shogun original??

or can't play against WE with an STW original copy?

The first one would be a deception for the 7bear7 clan, as they seem to prefer STW original. I think you meant the second one, luckily.

[Jochi Khan]

A Fakeserver is only a means of connecting for online play.
As long as the people connected are using the same stats they can play.

Original STW with Original STW the stats are the same (if they haven't been modded) you can play.

STW/MI or /WE the stats are the same again unless modded. You can play.
If you are using v1.02 and the other player is using v1.03, conflict, you cant play.
If one is using STW and the other STW/MI or /WE you cant play.

You get the same with MTW MTW/VI
People can play MTW together and MTW/VI together but, one with MTW and one with MTW/VI you cant play.

Jochi.

[Shambles]

Hav you ever tried?

Cos i did last night,

origional shogun does not work,
the top where games are listed is not displayed properly,
and games cannot be viewed,
i instlled origional shogun on my pc and on trishes pc and we tried,

Origional shogun vs origional shogun,
Did not work,

origional shogun vs we
did not work

and shogun mi vs origional shogun
did not work,

The origional shogun does not work on the fakeserv2 (or atleast on the one i host)
please Try it.

becous i took the time to test it out.
And It does not work.

ShambleS

[WombatSlayer]

I love how SHambles talks in this strange poetic like format :)


Loving this

[WombatSlayer]

Hmmm... okay, so (Shambles) what happened when you tried to log on with the original version? It says, on mine, that it's trying to log on... and that's it...

[Drisos]

Well, then I think you cannot play STW via shambles 'WE-server'.

I don't know of any STW-original server, so I'm afraid you cannot play STW MP.

I don't know how you think about WE(if you like that one too) you can try to get a copy (e-bay?).

[Shambles]

origional version will log in just fine,
But at the top theres usualy a lil scroll window where hosted games would go,
When using the origional shogun That window is not displayed..
And hosted games cannot be seen

[WombatSlayer]

I can't log in at all :(

[Drisos]

That happens more often.

Try logging in several times with different names, no pasword, and no CD-key.

I am in the foyer now, actually, I hope to see you there.

[WombatSlayer]

Does that work!? I have an account and password...

Also, just yesterday, it tried to log on... it said it was logging on, but that's all that happened...

[Drisos]

I guess you're a long time player.

With the official server you needed an account, but with the fakeservers you don't. Simply type a player name, click a family name and log in!

See you!

[Togakure]

If you're getting a "Logging On ..." message that just hangs for a while and then says "Failed to Connect" (if you wait long enough), your client is not finding the server at all. The first thing I would verify is that the information in your internet.cfg file (in your Shogun game folder) is correct.

For Shambles' server, the information should be:

ChatserverIPAddress = ShogunTW.no-ip.info
ChatserverPort = 8793
NewsserverIPAddress = daphne.eagames.co.uk
NewsserverPort = 8797
ShogunTotalWarWebsite = www.totalwar.com

I cut and pasted this information from mine, and I can access Shambles' server without problems.

Once you get to the message "Logged On," then your client has "found" the server. Any subsequent problems are most likely going to be related to communication between the fakeserver and your installation of Shogun. All you need to supply is a nickname and Japanese surname. Password and CD-Key are not used by the fakeservers.

Do remember to repeat the log on process several times if it stalls at "Logging On ..." or "Logged On," as even my attempts get stuck occasionally. Repeated attempts (2-3) usually get past the problem (assuming the server is running and the information in the internet.cfg file is correct).

***

As to the constrasting opinions/experiences regarding playing different game versions on fakeservers, theoretically you should be able to play others if game type and versions match (for Shogun original there is still potential for version mismatch between 1.0 and 1.12). However, I do know that Shambles has installed the same version of the original on his two PCs and tried to play MP on his server without success (the fakeserver's game window does not display), so obviously something is not working on his server that has on others (as I do know there have been those who've played MP with the original Shogun successfully on a fakeserver).

[Jochi Khan]

Hi Shambles

OK I tested tonight. STW v1.0 (original shogun)

Set up a fakeserver and logged on to foyer....ok

Other person joined my fakeserver....ok

Hosted a game....ok

Other person could not see my game.

He then hosted a game....ok

I could not see his game.

As you posted, the square at the top of the foyer has all the headings but not the lines to define the areas. Games cannot be seen.

Player list works and foyer chat works.

In theory there should be no problems.

Works ok with STW/WE

Jochi

[Shambles]

Yeah i know,

Ive been looking for fakeserv, If it exists,
Becous im using fakeserv2.
I hope the origional allows the 1st shogun to be used,

If any 1 knows if it exists or where i can find it,
Il host that as well.

ShambleS

[Jochi Khan]

Ive been looking for fakeserv, If it exists,
Becous im using fakeserv2.
I hope the origional allows the 1st shogun to be used,

If any 1 knows if it exists or where i can find it,
Il host that as well.

ShambleS

The Fakeserver you are using is the original.
It was a program made to allow people to play online when EA pulled the plug.
Can't remember who made it. Maybe TosaInu would remember.
May be something in the text file readme.

Jochi

[WombatSlayer]

If you're getting a "Logging On ..." message that just hangs for a while and then says "Failed to Connect" (if you wait long enough), your client is not finding the server at all. The first thing I would verify is that the information in your internet.cfg file (in your Shogun game folder) is correct.

Actually, it just says "Logging On..." and that's it. It never says "Failed to Connect- just "Logging On...". That goes on forever.

[Drisos]

Weird. I never have that. Only thing I know is that when logging on fails it mostly is a problem with the name. Have you tried different? And remember to let password and CD-key open.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Actually, it just says "Logging On..." and that's it. It never says "Failed to Connect- just "Logging On...". That goes on forever.

If mine says "Logging On..." for more than about 5 seconds I quit and try again. Takes me 1 or 2 tries usually.

[Togakure]

Yep, best to do what Sasaki suggests.

When my attempts hang at "Logging On ...," I have to wait for about a minute (I assume the software attempts to log in continuously for a preprogrammed amount of time before "timing out") before it displays a "Failed to Connect" message. For a long time I didn't know there was a "Failed to Connect" message because I never waited long enough to see it. While troubleshooting for someone else who mentioned seeing it a while back, I discovered that the "Failed to Connect" message eventually occurs if you don't interrupt the log in attempt before the time out point is reached. For some of us, anway ... .

[Puzz3D]

Original Shogun v1.12 worked fine for me with fakeserver when I was using Win98se. I haven't tried it with WinXP, but I know several people for whom it doesn't work under WinXP. If you are interested in original STW gameplay, try the Samurai Wars mod for MTW/VI v2.01 if you have that game. It's quite close to the original STW gameplay except that units rotate slower and cav charge works (it never worked in STW v1.12).

[WombatSlayer]

I have tried on a new computer now. After 4 login attempts using Shamble's Server... I've decided to sort of "give up". Any suggestions?

[Shambles]

you may have fire wall probs.
But i dunno.

Theres a post called how to host shogun mp games,
It discusses the ports used by shogun and fake server.
prehaps it will help a little.

ShambleS

[Drisos]

Any suggestions?

Well, I have written some sort of tech summary like Shambles did. you can find it here:

http://p203.ezboard.com/b47chushingura

then click ashigaru dojo and read the thread '47Ronin Drisos basic S:TW/MI/WE MP guide'.

it is about the same as shambles summary thought, and shambles knows much more about it, so...

hope you somehow solve it sometime..