Names

[Meneldil]

Frankish names (Carolingian dynasty, plus some names from the Mérovingian and Capetian dynasties, aswell as names of well known characters). Most would also fit with the Norman faction.

Names :

Angilbert
Anséis
Arnulf
Astolpho
Baudouin
Bégon
Bérengier
Bernard
Carloman
Charles
Clotaire
Clovis
Dagobert
Desiderius
Eberhard
Ecfird
Einhard
Engelier
Enguerrand
Florismart
Francis
Fredelon
Fulk
Ganelon
Geoffroi
Gerbert
Gérier
Gérin
Girard
Grimoald
Guillaume
Guy
Henri
Hugues
Ingelger
Ivon
Ivoire
Jean
Lanfrank
Leuthard
Louis
Lothair
Lothar
Maugris
Nithard
Odo
Ogier
Olivier
Otton
Pepin
Pierre
Ranulf
Raymond
Richard
Rinaldo
Robert
Robold
Roland
Rolon
Rudolph
Samson
Sigebert
Théobald
Theuderic
Thibault
Torsin
Warin
Warnegald

Women :

Adelaide
Alad
Alpais
Arégonde
Aupais
Berthe
Bertha
Bertrada
Berthrada
Crotilde
Désiderata
Dhuoda
Emma
Ermengarde
Ermentrude
Fastrada
Frénégonde
Gisela
Gisèle
Hilda
Hildegarde
Hilitrud
Irmengard
Judith
Luitgard
Nantechilde
Ringarde
Rotrude
Theodrada
Waldrade

Surnames :

There could be a whole lot. Surnames like 'the bald', 'the great', 'the fearless', etc. should be given through traits, if that's possible.

For common surnames, we'll have to use place names :

Western Franks surnames :

of Aquitania
of Neustria
of Francia
of Provincia
of Tolosa
of Vasconia
of Septimania
of Burgundia
of Britannia
of Flandria
of Iberia
of Albiga
of Lutetia
of Rotomagus
of Burdigala
of Narbona
of Aureliani
of Pictavium
of Arvernum
of Cadurcia
of Augustoritum
of Massilia

Central Franks :

of Provincia
of Burgundia
of Moselle
of Ripuaria
of Frisia
of Flandria
of Austrasia
of Laugobardia
of Tuscia
of Liguria
of Spoletum
of Beneventum
of Friulia
of Istria
of Secusia
of Iporedia
of Massilia
of Narbona
of Arelate
of Valentia
of Vienna
of Lugdunum
of Geneva
of Vesontio
of Mettia
of Aquisgrunum
of Strasburg
of Genoa
of Nicia
of Pisa
of Mediolanum

Eastern Franks :

of Alamannia
of Austrasia
of Saxonia
of Bavaria
of Bohemia
of Carinthia
of Moravia
of Thuringia
of Franconia
of Transalbingia
of Frisia
of Ripuraria
of Brema
of Hamaburg
of Strasburg
of Constantia
of Raethia
of Curia
of Praga
of Austria
of Ingolstadt
of Olmutz
of Saxonburg

[Rodion Romanovich]

Cool!

I've made some progress on the subject of names. After looking through every single txt file, I've found that the historical battles files also use names, so they have to be removed from there before they can be removed from the names files. Path is:
Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\battle\custom\Battle_of_Asculum
for instance. File descr_battle.txt is the one of interest.

All descr_strat.txt files, one per campaign, also contain links to names.
Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\descr_strat.txt

Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\vikings\descr_strat.txt

Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\sons_of_mars\descr_strat.txt

The names linked to from all these files most likely have to lead to a name existing in the names files.

Some other files that may be of interest for the subject, as they contain names from the names file:
1. Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\campaign\sons_of_mars\editor_log.txt
not likely, as it's a .log file; it's probably not used for reading by the engine, only for writing, if at all
2. Prologue_Campaign_Script.txt
Haven't checked it yet. May contain names.

Adding a name shouldn't be a problem - I think. Removing a name is probably more difficult, as it mustn't exist in any of the files mentioned above to be possible to remove.

A solution could be to
1. remove as many names as possible from these files that link to names, then make a list of the few remaining of the original names that had to be kept.
2. add as many as possible of the new names
3. change dependencies in the files mentioned above to link to any of the new names
4. remove the last old names

That's what I'll try to do. Might take some time...

[GoreBag]

Meneldil, should not the Frankish surnames use another word for "of" rather than just..."of"? I don't know much about Frankish in this period (or even if it's still considered Frankish at the time), but we should use a different word, I think.

[skeletor]

Thats great Legio..

But using "show err" usually points the way to the file were there is an error, so with some try/fail, you should be able to find all files related to the names rather fast don't you think?

-Skel-

[Meneldil]

Actually, the game crash without error message when there's a problem with names. Adding names is a real pain, as far as I can say.

[Meneldil]

Meneldil, should not the Frankish surnames use another word for "of" rather than just..."of"? I don't know much about Frankish in this period (or even if it's still considered Frankish at the time), but we should use a different word, I think.

Yeah, but I don't know a latin equivalent for 'of'

[GoreBag]

A great deal of latin prepositions are suffixes. The difference between "Vae Victus" and "Vae Victis", for example ("Woe vanquised" vs. "Woe to the vanquised"). Pathetically, I'm having trouble finding the right suffix, and I have no texts available to help me.

[Forgus]

I believe there is no such thing;
Like in Scipio Africanus, the frefix is incorporated into the place name. See also Germanicus, Hispanicus etc. But I speak no Latin myself...

[Meneldil]

Yeah, well, I guess I'll have to find my old latin text and studies ;-)