Names

[Nacheras]

Here am I again... :)

I think about agents (spy, diplomat, assasin), and could be you want to put surnames to them.

You can use the name+az or -ez about I´ve talking about yet. i.e Froilaz, Garces, Fernandez, Gonzalez, Ansurez, Sanchez, Velez, Vermudez, Ordoniez, Menendez, Ximenez or Jimenez, Nuniez, Munaz, Dieguez or Diaz...

In fact, I think that at IX century only the great nobles (magnates) used surname.

You can use the name of the birth town too. And then I provide you of a good list of towns to add as "of..." to the name:
Cangas, Pravia, Compostela, Valtierra, Gijon, Cosgaya, Tuy, Astorga (Asturica), Lugo (Lucus), Oporto, Braga, Chavez, Viseo, Simancas, Ledesma, Agueda, Salamanca, Zamora, Toro, Saldaña, Mabe, Amaya, Oca, Avila, Segovia, Sepúlveda, Clunica, Arganza, Osma, Miranda, Revenga, Cenicero, Carbonaria, Alesanco,Palencia, Valladolid, Sahagun, Santillana, Burgos, Lamego, Soria, Coca, Vitoria, Calahorra, Najera, Orense, Mieres.

[Meneldil]

Here am I again... :)


You can use the name of the birth town too. And then I provide you of a good list of towns to add as "of..." to the name:
Cangas, Pravia, Compostela, Valtierra, Gijon, Cosgaya, Tuy, Astorga (Asturica), Lugo (Lucus), Oporto, Braga, Chavez, Viseo, Simancas, Ledesma, Agueda, Salamanca, Zamora, Toro, Saldaña, Mabe, Amaya, Oca, Avila, Segovia, Sepúlveda, Clunica, Arganza, Osma, Miranda, Revenga, Cenicero, Carbonaria, Alesanco,Palencia, Valladolid, Sahagun, Santillana, Burgos, Lamego, Soria, Coca, Vitoria, Calahorra, Najera, Orense, Mieres.

Unfortunatly, agents and characters share the same name lists, so either we use surnames for everyone (except captains) or we don't use them at all. Do you know an 'asturian' equivalent for 'of' ? 'De' ?

[Nacheras]

Unfortunatly, agents and characters share the same name lists, so either we use surnames for everyone (except captains) or we don't use them at all. Do you know an 'asturian' equivalent for 'of' ? 'De' ?

Mmmmh, difficult question. In fact, there was not "asturian language" in that time. All the official documents were scribed in latin. Surely, as in other parts of "Romania", there was a popular spoken local version of latin, that in later centuries derived in galaic, asturian, leonese or the more spreadly castilian, but first documents in that languages belongs two centuries after the beginning of game.

"de" is "of" in modern spanish, not at that time.
If you want to achieve maximum reality, you must to use latin forms for asturian names (and arab forms in arabic alphabet for andalusies ). In fact, most of names I have provide you are modern form spanish names of old latin, gothic or pre-roman names.

i.e, if you want to name a character as "Vermond of Oviedo", you can post "Vermudo de Oviedo" in modern spanish, but if you want to be historical exactly, you must name as "Veremundus ovetensis" (I think, cause I´m not an expert in latin ).

Is your choose which form will be used. IMO has no sense to use spanish modern forms, except could be for names without known original forms. And has little sense use a "mix" of spanish, latin and english.
Using latin forms you really hit a good kick of historically accuracy, but you will need a latin expert, and most of the names I will provide will remain untranslatable or simply posted as "macaronic latin".

Sorry, I don´t know if I have helped you or have I confused you more.
In any case please don´t doubt about questioning anything.

Good work and go on.

[Meneldil]

Well, yeah, we'll try not to mix ancient latin, modern spanish and visigothic

The best would be to have some good latin speaker, cause he would be helpful for both Asturians and Franks.

Btw, could you help me by providing a list of all the names you posted in alphabetical order, kinda like Csatadi did in the previous page ? That would be really handy, cause I currently have a lot of work (studying, helping EB, testing the viking factions )

[Nacheras]

Well, yeah, we'll try not to mix ancient latin, modern spanish and visigothic
The best would be to have some good latin speaker, cause he would be helpful for both Asturians and Franks.
Btw, could you help me by providing a list of all the names you posted in alphabetical order, kinda like Csatadi did in the previous page ? That would be really handy, cause I currently have a lot of work (studying, helping EB, testing the viking factions )

Male asturian names

Adaninus
Adeca
Adefonsus/Athalfuns (goth)
Aierio
Aldroitus
Aloitus/Alois (german)
Alvarus
Annaia
Ansuro
Antin
Anton
Antonius
Apringius
Arduca
Arias
Aurelius
Ausonio
Adolfus/Astholf (lombard)
Bagauda
Beatus
Belaius
Bellidus
Berengarius
Bernardus
Boronta
Bureus
Calorato
Casius
Cesius
Cervelius
Christophorus
Chrsituevalus
Cisila
Dia
Didaco
Diego
Dulcidus
Egerius
Eita
Eiximenus
Elias
Elipandus
Elisipus
Emerardus/Hemerard (goth)
Eulogius
Favila-Fafila
Felix
Ferdinandus/Ferdinand (goth)
Fidelius
Flacencius
Flacianus
Flaino
Flavius
Florentius
Fortis
Fortunius
Fredegarius/Fredgard (frank)
Froila
Garcia
Gatonius
Gemellus
Genesius
Gisando
Glimirus/Gelmir (goth)
Gomis
Guntericus
Gustio
Gutierre
Harmonius
Hermenegildus/Ermenkhild (goth)
Heterius
Holalio
Ienesius
Iohannes
Kintila
Julianus
Lope
Lucas
Mames
Manricus/Mannrikh (goth)
Martinus
Matrolo
Maurecatus
Melendus
Menendus
Monnio
Monito
Montano
Nepotianus
Nunio
Nonito
Odoarius
Opila
Ordonio
Orvano
Pascual
Pelagius
Penoio
Pepi
Petrus
Puniolus
Radolfus/Randolf (goth)
Raimundus/Radimund
Ranemirus/Radomir (goth)
Recafredus
Recaredus/Rekhard (goth)
Revelio
Rodanio
Rodericus/Rodrikh (goth)
Rotibus
Samson
Sancio
Sarracinus
Saulus
Savaricus
Scipionus
Sebastianus
Servandus
Severus
Silo
Soario
Sonna
Stephanus
Suinitus
Tellus
Teoda
Teodila
Teodulfus/Teodulph (german)
Teudemirus/Teodomir (goth)
Tinnus
Tizo
Toribius
Usunnio
Uzerius
Valerius
Veila
Velascus
Veremundus/Vermund (goth)
Victorius
Vida
Vigila
Vimaranus/Vimara (goth)
Vincebilis
Vincentius
Zamma
Zezius
Zoilus
Zonius



Female asturias names

Aba
Adosinda
Aldonza
Anella
Argilo
Bermesinda
Brunila
Caudiosa
Creusa
Christina
Elvira
Ermesinda
Faquilo
Favinia
Froiliuba
Galla
Goto
Hildegarda
Icka
Leodegundia
Marina
Masita
Munia
Nunia
Nunilona
Oneca
Ozenda
Paterna
Sancia
Sara
Savilli
Terencia
Teudilla
Tezana
Thisiena
Togia
Urbana
Urraca
Valeria
Verilde
Ximena


Male Basque (kingdom of Navarra) names

Antzo
Asnar
Bela
Eblo
Enneko
Fortunio/Fortun (basque)
Garcia
Gondesalvo
Gustio
Rodericus/Ruy (basque)
Sanctius
Sigerici/Geriz (basque)
Ximeno/Gemeno (basque)


Female basque names

Aldoncia
Anderazo
Belascuza
Belasquita
Çinara
Constanza
Domeca
Domicussa
Elvira
Emazteona
Endregoto
Fronilla
Iuxta
Jurdana
Justa
Leguntia
Lupa
Maria
Mencia
Muniadona
Oneca
Ortissa
Sancia
Toda
Urraca
Yenega
Zianna



Hispanic Mark (catalonian and aragonese) male names

Acenar
Albinus
Aleran
Angelinus
Ansur
Arifred
Armengol
Arnaudus
Asnarius
Babila
Bela
Belasco
Bellon
Bera
Berenguerius
Bernardus
Bertrand
Bivas
Borrelius
Bradila
Centollius
Cesarius
Chacus
Dacho
Dato
Elias
Enneko
Ermennisculus
Estebanus
Exemeno
Ferriolus
Filgolo
Fortunio
Galindus
Garsia
Gerallo
Gilbert
Guillem
Gundisalvo
Hug
Humfred
Incalzatus
Magier
Maiolphus
Mancio
Mascarone
Martinus
Miro
Odalric
Odila
Oleguer
Oliba
Oriol
Petrus
Pontius
Porcelius
Ranimirus
Rampo
Raymond
Raterus
Robert
Rodebaldus
Rodulf
Sabarinus
Sancio
Salomon
Sampiro
Savigildus
Scemeno
Scluva
Suniarius
Sunifred
Uincentius
Vida
Vigila
Wifred
Wiliesindus
Witard


Hispanic Mark female names

Ahalaez
Ailo
Ato
Balla
Cixilona
Dadildis
Emma
Emon
Ermisenda
Ermisindis
Fakilo
Maria
Matrona
Petronila
Richildis
Vinidildes



All them are real names, from around 750 until around 1030.

I hope this list will be enough, because I´m exhausted (remembre, that dismish the moralle ) of searching history books.

Next day I´ll post about surnames in latin.
But first I will take a short "historic holiday". Surely I´ll pass my time playing RTW-BI or RTR

[Meneldil]

Thanks a lot Nacheras. I'm adding them to the game right now

[Nacheras]

btw, I have a question.

I suppose that in RTW hardcore there is some problem about the order number of kings, due to never appears an Seluco II i.e, or a Alexander III. Always the royal name is different for any king.

Please tell me if I´m in right. If it´s so, its a really pity, because at least in asturican royal familiy some names repeats mostly (Ordonio, Radomir, Adefonsus, Garcia) and the correct way for the game should be a large list of Radomir II, Ordonio III or Adefonsus V.

Thanks