Scandinavian Union?

[English assassin]

I think the Swedes would have to lighten up. A LOT.

ASlso IIRC Norway is sitting on a pretty fat pile of cash from north sea oil which they have salted away for future use. Very wise of them. Would they want to share that with the rest of Scandanavia, (inc their former overlords the Swedes)?

[Kagemusha]

Slso IIRC Norway is sitting on a pretty fat pile of cash from north sea oil which they have salted away for future use. Very wise of them. Would they want to share that with the rest of Scandanavia, (inc their former overlords the Swedes)?

About the Norway.I dont see why other scandinavians would even try to get Norways oil money.

[Viking]

No, no! They`d just suck out all of our oil money!

[Kagemusha]

No, no! They`d just suck out all of our oil money!

We would not do that.Or would we?
Think if we would combine our industries.We would be pretty self-efficient(spelling?!)

[Ldvs]

ASlso IIRC Norway is sitting on a pretty fat pile of cash from north sea oil which they have salted away for future use. Very wise of them. Would they want to share that with the rest of Scandanavia, (inc their former overlords the Swedes)?

Probably never. Their oil reserves and fisheries are their greatest advantages and the origin of their wealth. If I were them I wouldn't have joined the EU either, for it meant the loss of control over these resources.

As for the Nordic Union, I see little in common between the ultra-liberal English policies and the Scandinavian "Welfare states". In my opinion this union wouldn't last long. On the other hand a pure Scandinavian union is probably the only solution for Nordic peoples to be heard, lost amongst a gigantic EU.

[English assassin]

As for the Nordic Union, I see little in common between the ultra-liberal English policies and the Scandinavian "Welfare states". In my opinion this union wouldn't last long.

Much as I like Scandinavia, I have to agree. A shared culture of drinking too much and fighting is no doubt a first class basis for a good night out, but it would make for a pretty ropey political union.

[Lazul]

lets leave the english out then!, and in the future once your have taken a few steps to the left you can join

[GoreBag]

Something about having Finland as a member of a Scandinavian union doesn't make sense to me. The only reason for really having the union would be cultural similiarity, and Finns aren't Germanic. Now, as to whether or not Scandinavia as a country should be on good terms with Finland is an unrelated matter, but a Scandinavian union seems to me as a nationalistic idea, suitable for pseudo-vikings. Neither would it make sense to have England get on the boat.

[bmolsson]

I don't understand why the Northern countries are not one country. Actually most of it has been Danish in history.......

[GoreBag]

I don't understand why the Northern countries are not one country. Actually most of it has been Danish in history.......

Same reason Austria and Germany aren't one and the same - politics.

[Ironside]

I don't understand why the Northern countries are not one country. Actually most of it has been Danish in history.......

The only place that havn't been Swedish anytime in history (more or less, Norway was quite independent during the union) is Copenhagen, so not much to get from there.

Something about having Finland as a member of a Scandinavian union doesn't make sense to me. The only reason for really having the union would be cultural similiarity, and Finns aren't Germanic

The cultural similarity is that Finland was Swedish for about 600 years and is still very influenced of that time.

[Kagemusha]

Something about having Finland as a member of a Scandinavian union doesn't make sense to me. The only reason for really having the union would be cultural similiarity, and Finns aren't Germanic. Now, as to whether or not Scandinavia as a country should be on good terms with Finland is an unrelated matter.

What can i say Neongod?I disagree.I dont know how much do you know about Finnish history or culture?Yes we are not germans.We are Finno-Ugrig and there are only about 23 million people in the world who speak these languages.
Finnish have had long and bloody history because we are located literally between East and West,on the other side the Germans and on the other The Slavs.Personally i think its a little miracle that we still exist at all.
About our relationship with our western neighbours here is an example:In early WWII in 1939.Soviet Union attacked Finland in so called Winter War.The only country that really helped Finland was Sweden by supplying us weapons and volunteers.The odds didnt look too good for Finland,at that time Soviet Union didnt wage war against any other country.Sweden went that far that they adopted tens of thousends Finnish children,so there would be some of us left,if the rest would be exterminated.
That kind of people i call good neighbours.

[Krusader]

What can i say Neongod?I disagree.I dont know how much do you know about Finnish history or culture?Yes we are not germans.We are Finno-Ugrig and there are only about 23 million people in the world who speak these languages.
Finnish have had long and bloody history because we are located literally between East and West,on the other side the Germans and on the other The Slavs.Personally i think its a little miracle that we still exist at all.
About our relationship with our western neighbours here is an example:In early WWII in 1939.Soviet Union attacked Finland in so called Winter War.The only country that really helped Finland was Sweden by supplying us weapons and volunteers.The odds didnt look too good for Finland,at that time Soviet Union didnt wage war against any other country.Sweden went that far that they adopted tens of thousends Finnish children,so there would be some of us left,if the rest would be exterminated.
That kind of people i call good neighbours.

Norway did also help

Many men volunteered and as I recall we sent like 50.000 bags (selkäreppu) among a few other things. Although Sweden's help was of course greater.

Plus, being half-Finnish myself and visiting Finland each summer, my opinion is that most Finns feel like they belong more to the Nordic than the Baltic and Russia. Correct kagemusha?

[GoreBag]

What can i say Neongod?I disagree.I dont know how much do you know about Finnish history or culture?Yes we are not germans.We are Finno-Ugrig and there are only about 23 million people in the world who speak these languages.
Finnish have had long and bloody history because we are located literally between East and West,on the other side the Germans and on the other The Slavs.Personally i think its a little miracle that we still exist at all.
About our relationship with our western neighbours here is an example:In early WWII in 1939.Soviet Union attacked Finland in so called Winter War.The only country that really helped Finland was Sweden by supplying us weapons and volunteers.The odds didnt look too good for Finland,at that time Soviet Union didnt wage war against any other country.Sweden went that far that they adopted tens of thousends Finnish children,so there would be some of us left,if the rest would be exterminated.
That kind of people i call good neighbours.

I....don't see a refutation of anything I've said.