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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    What can i say Neongod?I disagree.I dont know how much do you know about Finnish history or culture?Yes we are not germans.We are Finno-Ugrig and there are only about 23 million people in the world who speak these languages.
    Finnish have had long and bloody history because we are located literally between East and West,on the other side the Germans and on the other The Slavs.Personally i think its a little miracle that we still exist at all.
    About our relationship with our western neighbours here is an example:In early WWII in 1939.Soviet Union attacked Finland in so called Winter War.The only country that really helped Finland was Sweden by supplying us weapons and volunteers.The odds didnt look too good for Finland,at that time Soviet Union didnt wage war against any other country.Sweden went that far that they adopted tens of thousends Finnish children,so there would be some of us left,if the rest would be exterminated.
    That kind of people i call good neighbours.
    I....don't see a refutation of anything I've said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    I....don't see a refutation of anything I've said.
    What i meant,was that in matter of fact we have very similar culture with Sweden and Norway.While we are not germans.If you look at Switzerland,are they homogenetic people?
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    what has race got to do with it? its not all Swedes are germanic and so on. We got alot of Kurd, Turks, Albanians, Serbs, Greeks, English and Americans etc etc.

    Actually I couple of Americans moved in to brothers neighborhood (sp?) from California. When my brothers wife asked them, they said that Bush is destroying their country.
    might add that I laughed for a second or two
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    I dont support races at all.I think we are all just human beings.
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    What about Estonia ?

    Might be a mistake to leave the beautiful people of Talinn out of any such union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kagemusha
    What i meant,was that in matter of fact we have very similar culture with Sweden and Norway.While we are not germans.If you look at Switzerland,are they homogenetic people?
    Culture and race are different things.

    Switzerland isn't trying to justify its place in a Scandinavian union.

    While, yes, there is mixing, and nothing is black and white, Finland, while still very cold, grim, tough and all those good things, is not part of Scandinavia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    Finland, while still very cold, grim, tough and all those good things, is not part of Scandinavia.
    Well if start nitpicking, then Denmark and Iceland can't join either as geographically they are not part of Scandinavian penisula.
    Last edited by asilv; 06-17-2005 at 19:24.

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    I do think most of us consider Finland to be part of Scandinavia/Nordic Countries. They might have different language but history/culture binds us together.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Silvouz
    Well if start nitpicking, then Denmark and Iceland can't join either as geographically they are not part of Scandinavian penisula.
    So neither can some fjords and islands?

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    Scandinavia is the cultural and historic region of the Scandinavian Peninsula. The Scandinavian countries are Norway, Sweden and Denmark, which mutually recognize each other as parts of Scandinavia. The collective label "Scandinavia" reflects the cultural similarity, and the strong historical ties, between these countries despite their political independence.

    The usage and meaning of the term outside Scandinavia is somewhat ambiguous:

    * Finland, the Faroe Islands, and Iceland are sometimes counted as parts of Scandinavia.
    * In a German mindset, Norway, Sweden and Finland are usually included, but Denmark is not.
    * In a British mindset, Norway, Sweden, and Denmark are usually included, often with the addition of Iceland, Finland, and sometimes even Greenland.

    These alternative meanings are considered incorrect in Scandinavia, and occasionally some people may take offense by such usage in English.

    The term the Nordic countries is used unambiguously for the Scandinavian kingdoms of Norway, Sweden, Denmark, and the republics of Finland and Iceland.

    The terms Fennoscandia and Fenno-Scandinavia may either be used to include the Scandinavian peninsula, the Kola peninsula, Karelia and Finland under the same term alluding to the Fennoscandian Shield, or they may be used in a more cultural sense, more or less as a synonym for the Nordic countries, to signify the historically close contact between Finnic, Sami and Scandinavian peoples and cultures.
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    so do I, and it is correct. originally, scandinavia is s, n and dk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonGod
    Culture and race are different things.

    Switzerland isn't trying to justify its place in a Scandinavian union.

    While, yes, there is mixing, and nothing is black and white, Finland, while still very cold, grim, tough and all those good things, is not part of Scandinavia.
    Are you insulting my people?What country are you from? And what do you know about my country.Why should we justify enything to enyone. If you look at our history even a little bit you should know were we stand.
    Im sorry but i have to ask you because you seem to know all the answers.Where are we if not in Scandinavia geophragigally speaking?
    Last edited by Kagemusha; 06-18-2005 at 02:37.
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    Actually, Scandinavia is only Sweden and Norway. Denmark on the other hand as the oldest Nordic country has had control over Scandinavia several time through history.....

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    NeonGod, try not to insult the Finns

    A Scandinavian Union should be based on Culture and Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway are all very much alike. Even the Languages are much alike.
    All this talk about Finns not being part of the germanic "race" and so on, well, unless your a damn Nazi you wouldnt have a problem with that.
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    incorrect bmolosson. originally scandinavia derives from the latin word Scandinavia or Skåne. Also the ancient icelandic word skani or skaney means skåne, Plinius (23-79) uses both words to define the nordic countries (sweden, norway and denmark). Both words are from the ancient nordic word Skaoinawjo (which also means Skåne)
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