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    How the Europeans propped up the dollar
    Joel Kurtzman (archive)

    June 15, 2005
    Since 1971, the dollar has had no real-world backing other than the level of confidence the rest of the world puts in the United States and in its future.

    Interest rates play a part, but people are willing to forgo a basis point or two of today’s returns if they believe tomorrow’s yields will be even better.

    With regard to confidence in the United States, there have been ups and downs. The dollar sagged under Carter, rose under Reagan, fell under the first George Bush, rose dramatically under Clinton and lost 40 percent of its value under the second George Bush.

    The recent dramatic fall in the value of the dollar has led to slower global growth, higher oil and commodity prices, tensions with China and increased inflationary pressure. And, if you ask me, it has increased the US trade deficit by making strategic imports like oil more expensive.

    But confidence is relative and the question most people ask themselves when they do their analysis is, “if we can’t rely on the US, who can we rely on?” In the run up to the war in Iraq, the financial world put faith in Europe and in the euro.

    Money managers liked what French President Chirac and German Chancellor Schroeder said and grumbled about Bush. Financial leaders thought Europe had moxie and its leaders weren’t afraid to chart their own way. They say strength in Europe’s numbers.

    But as the vote over Europe’s cumbersome and lengthy constitution began to look more like a “non” than a “oui,” the world realized that on a bet on Europe was a far more uncertain than a bet on the US.

    With confidence in Europe’s future waning, the all-mighty euro began to lose altitude. On the day French voters turned against the constitution, the euro lost 2.5 percent of its value against the dollar. It fell further when Dutch voters rejected the proposed 1400-page document which declares, among other things, that every European has a right to a job, but doesn’t say who has to provide it for them.

    With Europe’s pro-constitution leaders off licking their wounds, Chirac’s vision of Europe as a second superpower is still a long way off. As a result, there will be no European “counterweight” to US power in the near future, and perhaps never.

    None of this, of course, has been lost on the world’s financial leaders. As a result, we are beginning to see a recovery in the value of the dollar, despite falling US interest rates. In my view, the dollar has entered into a long term upward trend in value against the world’s other leading currencies.

    This is very good news.

    With confidence in the dollar returning, it is very likely that we will begin to see falling oil and commodity prices, which are priced in dollars. Since oil and commodities producers will have seen their purchasing power increased, due to the dollar’s rise, they will be able to pare back prices with no ill effects at home. Commodity prices should start falling soon.
    That’s good for world growth.

    In addition, with the dollar on the rise, China will feel less pressure to revalue its currency, which is pegged to the dollar. This will allow its leaders to save face and permit them to focus on fixing their domestic financial system, which needs a lot of fixing.

    A higher dollar will also mitigate inflation in the US, which will keep interest rates low. And, finally, a higher dollar is likely to return to the US its important role as the world’s consumer of last resort. For the bedraggled economies of the Europe – Germany and Italy in particular – this is the medicine they so urgently need.

    Europe’s “non” vote on its constitution, and the world’s renewal of confidence in the US, is good news. Not only because the constitution needs – how shall I put this? – a little more work, but because it recognizes one of the central tenets of this era, namely, that the US is the world’s sole and unrivaled superpower in economic and military terms. A European counterweight to US power may make sense in a Parisian coffee bar, but not in places where real power is wielded.

    It may take a time before the dollar re-ascends to its towering height. And, a madman or a global tragedy could always derail even the best of trends. But as the dollar rises, we can expect to see the fortunes of countries improve around the world.

    Though President Chirac may protests, no one ever really wins betting against the United States.

    Joel Kurtzman is Chairman of the Kurtzman Group, a consulting and advisory firm
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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    It doesn't solve the US-China problem though. In the end it has to be solved......

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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    Get your deficits under control and that rosy picture may happen, but otherwise my view is that it's all just a little optomistic.

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    Good. One decent thing to come out of the no vote then - a stronger dollar means better exports for the UK, as at the moment we are starting to get seriously priced out of the US market with Sterling being so strong against your falling currency.

    About bloody time, sort it out.
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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    Jag,

    if the dollar is raising, the Sterling will as well. This will increase the export of the EURO countries.

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    In addition, with the dollar on the rise, China will feel less pressure to revalue its currency, which is pegged to the dollar. This will allow its leaders to save face and permit them to focus on fixing their domestic financial system, which needs a lot of fixing.
    ...tensions with China and increased inflationary pressure. And, if you ask me, it has increased the US trade deficit by making strategic imports like oil more expensive.
    I don't think the increase in the value of the dollar is going to help the trade issues that the US has with China. The Chinese currency will remain the same ratio, if anything a stronger US currency means a stronger Chinese currency with respect to the rest of the world. It means that for Chinese it is just as hard to buy US goods as before yet EU goods will get relatively cheaper. So more EU goods will be bought and less US goods. The trade deficit will possibly increase for the US...
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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    It's really a win-for-all situation. The Euro was never meant to tower above the dollar, it was bad for our economy.

    Now if we can get rid of the CAP (I love the UK in the EU by the way, they're the ideal counterweight against the French ) we can really start rebuilding our economy.

    Food prices are 4-5 times as high as they should be, this inevitably hurts the whole economy.

    But the rising dollar is very good, especially since my dad invested some money in dollars yesterday, I hope the dollar soars
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio
    I don't think the increase in the value of the dollar is going to help the trade issues that the US has with China. The Chinese currency will remain the same ratio, if anything a stronger US currency means a stronger Chinese currency with respect to the rest of the world. It means that for Chinese it is just as hard to buy US goods as before yet EU goods will get relatively cheaper. So more EU goods will be bought and less US goods. The trade deficit will possibly increase for the US...
    Bingo - it is actually brilliant for us in the EU zone, especially as we are significantly trying to up our trade with China.

    The relative weak dollar has caused all imports to the US to be very uncompetitive, which has meant US business stronger when facing imports, that will change if the dollar goes back to its 'normal' level.
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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    But oil prices are still rising and thats not gonna be good for the Euro zone.


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    Hmmm, personally all my assumptions of the future are based upon the assumption that the U.S economy will go into freefall within the next 20 years. If nothing else the huge debt the US Govt. is piling up will hinder investment and cause a huge recession.

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    I've heard plenty that the Chinese govt. is artificially keeping the value of their currency down (by about a third) for the good of their manufacturing sector(and to bugger up the U.S. and E.U. manufacturing industries if you believe some people).

    Did anybody else hear about that mini peasant revolt in China?

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    Default Re: How the Europeans propped up the dollar

    Quote Originally Posted by doc_bean
    The Euro was never meant to tower above the dollar, it was bad for our economy.
    So you want to peg it to the dollar??

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmolsson
    So you want to peg it to the dollar??
    The governments are already complaining they don't have enough control, what would it be if we came dependant on US money policy ?

    (and there are probably a hundred million other reasons not to do it...)
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    The recent drop in the Euro has meant I get a great exchange rate just in time for my holiday.

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