Jebus.

[Uriel]

Actually, if you take the gospels as historically accurate, Jesus could have been born no later than 4BC. Why? Herod the Great (Mr baby killer himself) died around Spring 4BC. Some historians and biblical commentators think that he could have been born as early as 12BC but the genral consensus is around 5 or 6 BC.

This is why we now tend to use CE (Current Era) rather than BC. It's not just people being PC.

Oh - and the years went 2BC, 1BC, 1AD, 2AD etc (but I'm pretty sure they didn't call them that at the time.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Actually, if you take the gospels as historically accurate, Jesus could have been born no later than 4BC. Why? Herod the Great (Mr baby killer himself) died around Spring 4BC. Some historians and biblical commentators think that he could have been born as early as 12BC but the genral consensus is around 5 or 6 BC.

This is why we now tend to use CE (Current Era) rather than BC. It's not just people being PC.

Oh - and the years went 2BC, 1BC, 1AD, 2AD etc (but I'm pretty sure they didn't call them that at the time.

I think 2 BC is the most popular one. Based on astronomy they've also found evens that could be the big star. One took place during midsummer and another one around the 25th of December that same year.

[The Stranger]

but there is no 2bc, the day' he's born is 0, the year after is 1 AD the year before is 1BC. even if the year is the 689 moon year or 131414313413441314321 dec or sumthing like that

[Rodion Romanovich]

but there is no 2bc, the day' he's born is 0, the year after is 1 AD the year before is 1BC. even if the year is the 689 moon year or 131414313413441314321 dec or sumthing like that

Yeah, it should really be called 2 BOYIBTBYOBOC , meaning 1 Before Old Year Incorrectly Believed To Be Year Of Birth Of Christ, but that's a little unpractical...

[The Stranger]

hmm

[IliaDN]

Actualy I understand where did you get info that Jesus was born on 2 B.C. , if the new count 9 A.D. 0 begins from the date of his birth?

Edit: DID NOT UNDERSTAND.

[Rodion Romanovich]

Actualy I understand where did you get info that Jesus was born on 2 B.C. , if the new count 9 A.D. 0 begins from the date of his birth?

Me? I read it in a book
It depends on problems in the keeping record of time through all these years, so there was early a conclusion that you couldn't be sure year 0 was year 0. Then, based on historical data, some historians and others have made calculations and stuff, which suggests years like 2 BC, 3 BC and 7 BC with the current time are the most likely years for the exact time of birth.

[Uriel]

I think 2 BC is the most popular one. Based on astronomy they've also found evens that could be the big star. One took place during midsummer and another one around the 25th of December that same year.

Actually, to take 2BC as the date, you have to ignore to accounts of Jesus' birth and early life in Matthew and Luke. Dates for Herod the Great are pretty much confirmed. He died 2 years before that. The fact of the matter is nobody really knows the year Jesus was born. That's why we've got so many dates flying around!

[IliaDN]

In my opinion it is a bit Monastery stuff ...

[bubbanator]

I am not positive, but I saw in some timeline thing in social studies that he was born in 4bc and that when he was four, he started talking about God for the first time and that is when AD started.

AD is the abbriviation for some latin phrase that means "In The Year of Our Lord"

He didn't talk about God until that point so it wouldn't have actualy been "In the Year of Our Lord" until he started talking about God

[IliaDN]

If this is correct things became clearer ... thanks !!!!!

[Gregorius Vecchius]

If this is correct things became clearer ... thanks !!!!!

Well, it isn't correct. AD (Anno domini, the year of our lord) refers to Jebus himself. Remember, Gob, Jebus and the Holy Bhost are actually one and the same.
The reason why he was born before he was born (if you're still with me) is that our calendar was made by Greborius who calculated wrong the date of the birth of Jebus. He created an adjusted calendar to make the seasons fit in the year again, based on the calendar of Jubian, the Roman emperor (the Julian calendar).
Now we are a bit more intelligent, in some ways, and we managed to come to the conclusion that Jeb was actually born a bit earlier than Greb thought he was.

[Mikeus Caesar]

I also heard btw, that there was no way Jebus could have been born in 1 AD/1 BC anyway, because i think that the closest Roman Census around that time was in 4BC and the next one was going to be in 4 AD, and since, as someone pointed out, Herod died in 4 BC, Jebus must have been born around then, but that's not the point just now. I just want to know, is there actually a message pronouncing the birth of Jebus?

[IliaDN]

Well, it isn't correct. AD (Anno domini, the year of our lord) refers to Jebus himself. Remember, Gob, Jebus and the Holy Bhost are actually one and the same.
The reason why he was born before he was born (if you're still with me) is that our calendar was made by Greborius who calculated wrong the date of the birth of Jebus. He created an adjusted calendar to make the seasons fit in the year again, based on the calendar of Jubian, the Roman emperor (the Julian calendar).
Now we are a bit more intelligent, in some ways, and we managed to come to the conclusion that Jeb was actually born a bit earlier than Greb thought he was.

So we live either in 2001 or in 2009?